brakechatter

If you drop a trip as a result of your NFLY status, yes, you may travel unrestricted. If you utilize sick time to get the vaccine, you may travel to and from the vaccination site on the airline -- but not unrestricted.

Either way, you need to notify the CPO so that you don't get flagged.

Iceberg

I did see value. I knew I would have sick time remaining after myself or a family member had Covid and I would be paid during the time missed. Actual language to deal with fatigue and extension calls are a long term gain. I’m not a military person, but I’m not a commuter and I can still see the value to commuting gains. Why can’t I recognize the value gained by others in the group? I also don’t live in a state with non-family sick leave, but more power to those who do.

A few hours of pay difference in April are not greater than the long term gains. You obviously disagree, your April hour loss out-values the gains in the agreement to you. That or you are placing the complete value on the SIL language. The language was a fail, but it doesn’t negate the other gains.

I guess we disagree, you don’t see value and that’s fine. I do though.

DWC CAP10 USAF

You forgot the main reason....MOAD before VOEP.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see that offering the VEOP first, seeing what positions left, and then offering the MOAD to further reduce categories as needed was the way it SHOULD have gone.

sailingfun

I agree with you. They should have offered the VEOP first. They were however able to cancel a big chunk of the MOAD training. Their crystal ball however saw this as longer term than it looks like it’s going to turn out. Regardless just the fleet restructuring would have been a mammoth undertaking in normal times and is the reason aircraft phase puts are normally stretched over years not months.

Gone Flying

I don’t think this was the main reason, I think the main reason was after they reduced their headcount by 1806, they continued to push furloughs as hard as they could. Realistically had they run a large AE bringing back most if not all UNA pilots in September 2020 instead of 600 we would be in a much better position right now, have most pilots trained and qualified on an aircraft, And probably be hiring next month.

notEnuf

Where did you read the company was surprised by the VEOP take rate?

Sputnik

I heard it from multiple CPs.

Doesn't mean it's true, but that was certainly my understanding at the time

notEnuf

What kind of numbers were they expecting or projecting to leave for training and cost savings purposes?

Hossharris

the MOAD first got a lot more people to VEOP.
All those dudes that got displaced got to VEOP at their old pay rate ...

Bert Sampson

No idea about MGMT but my read on line wisdom at the time was that 800 would be a healthy number.