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Aviator147 06-08-2021 01:40 PM

According to the 717 page on skyhub,

hiring 150 a month starting in September through the end of the year and hiring 200 a month beginning in January. E periods will be utilized.

SkiBum95 06-08-2021 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 3247203)
According to the 717 page on skyhub,

hiring 150 a month starting in September through the end of the year and hiring 200 a month beginning in January. E periods will be utilized.


I thought we were maxed out at 1100-1300 per year. If my maths are correct, that’s 2400 next year. How’re we going to do that?

tennisguru 06-08-2021 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by SkiBum95 (Post 3247267)
I thought we were maxed out at 1100-1300 per year. If my maths are correct, that’s 2400 next year. How’re we going to do that?

Shrink each sim period by ~15 minutes, shorten the prebriefs. A periods get in the sim earlier. That allows E periods to be used for all pilots not just new hires since it’ll get done before the cutoff time (1 am??).

dbrownie 06-08-2021 05:02 PM

But yet we have pilots waiting months for OE and TOE?
I don’t think we can do that.

tcco94 06-08-2021 05:08 PM

So I'm going to 220 in 2 weeks. January LAX7ER. If these new hires are going to 7ER now, am I converted for purposes of pay or do I need someone junior to me same base too

Gone Flying 06-08-2021 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3247301)
So I'm going to 220 in 2 weeks. January LAX7ER. If these new hires are going to 7ER now, am I converted for purposes of pay or do I need someone junior to me same base too

It would be same category (base, equipment, seat). Im pretty sure (like 99.999%) they can put new hires in an unbid position before they convert all pilots from an AE anyway

Gone Flying 06-08-2021 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by dbrownie (Post 3247299)
But yet we have pilots waiting months for OE and TOE?
I don’t think we can do that.

Isn’t the OE/TOE wait limited mainly to the ER? We are ramping up quite a bit of TATL 7ER flying starting July 2. I think the TOE backlog will start clearing pretty quick.

tcco94 06-08-2021 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3247312)
It would be same category (base, equipment, seat). Im pretty sure (like 99.999%) they can put new hires in an unbid position before they convert all pilots from an AE anyway

Ah didn't know that, yeah ok thanks. I'm like 4 from bottom in LAX so I assume this scenario won't be happening for me then.

Lifeisgood 06-08-2021 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 3247203)
According to the 717 page on skyhub,

hiring 150 a month starting in September through the end of the year and hiring 200 a month beginning in January. E periods will be utilized.

We just retired 77 Maddogs, 10 737s, 9 320s and 18 777s.
VEOP plus age 65: about 2k dudes left.
Deliveries are at 34 ac this year, 32 in 2022.

If hiring is so aggressive what are these dude going to fly? Unless there is a monster order ready to be announced with super fast deliveries..

E periods already being utilized on most fleets.

tcco94 06-08-2021 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 3247328)
We just retired 77 Maddogs, 10 737s, 9 320s and 18 777s.
VEOP plus age 65: about 2k dudes left.
Deliveries are at 34 ac this year, 32 in 2022.

If hiring is so aggressive what are these dude going to fly? Unless there is a monster order ready to be announced with super fast deliveries..

E periods already being utilized on most fleets.

We still have 56 planes parked and I remember reading 2 months ago 717 is bringing more back that were originally retired. (Fleet newsletter).... Thought I heard the same for 320/7ER's

I haven't seen any E periods scheduled on 220. I would have happily taken the extra money to do it, lol


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