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Old 05-07-2021, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Covered the matter in-depth with them. Our MEC is more unified on this issue than any issue. The Chairman's letter represented the position of every Rep I've spoken with or who has published their thoughts.



If you are posting falsehoods in support of recall maybe you can explain why B B (can't use names but rhymes with Cartel) wants Brent out. Thought that they were friendlies, allies. I can not keep track of f-NWA political intrigue. Kindly provide an update if you are so inclined.
I thought the BB we're talking about rhymes with Rotella. He's certainly the one pushing the recall on FB.
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123 View Post
Don’t bother, Bar isn’t the kind of guy to go to the source and man up. He’s more an order taker. Remember the famous picture, he looks like someone brought their little brother and he actually thinks he’s in the frat. “What’s he doing here!” Lol
Not in the picture. Wasn't in the frat. My criticisms earned me a lifetime ban.

Bill always thinks I don't like him. That is not the case. It's not the caporegime, it's the associates, who get sloppy.
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
if they won’t write down their position, how do you know they “support Patrick Burns memo?[sic]”


what does “supporting” the memo even mean?
*starts Slow clap* funny af
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Every single items management wants they favor.

Even as we speak.

Call them. Ask them if they support Patrick Burns memo. More 76 seat RJs for Endeavor.

Don’t let them talk in circles. Make them write down their position in written form. They never ever will:
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Old 05-07-2021, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Very true. But there was more to the VEOP, 20-04, stuff like PS commuting and the Market Based Cash Balance Plan. The Reps crafted a plan that protected jobs, which thankfully was not necessitated because of the PPP. Their willingness to risk unpopularity to protect pilots was, and is, the core of their job as Status Representatives.
As a results guy you should be disappointed with the progress on the MBCBP. Three years of “study” and a year since implementation was accepted, yet 2020 came and went without an additional savings tool. I’m not holding my breath on 2021. LOAs were fine for the previous Covid19 circumstances but no more. Solve all the issues in one agreement.
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Old 05-07-2021, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf View Post
As a results guy you should be disappointed with the progress on the MBCBP. Three years of “study” and a year since implementation was accepted, yet 2020 came and went without an additional savings tool. I’m not holding my breath on 2021. LOAs were fine for the previous Covid19 circumstances but no more. Solve all the issues in one agreement.
The people it could have helped have mostly left or are soon to. I don't GAF if it ever passes at this point. Just pay me more money and I'll figure it out myself.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:15 PM
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The people it could have helped have mostly left or are soon to. I don't GAF if it ever passes at this point. Just pay me more money and I'll figure it out myself.
We got it in the LOA. I'll gladly take another tax shelter.
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Old 05-08-2021, 12:55 PM
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We got it in the LOA. I'll gladly take another tax shelter.
It doesn't personally do me any good if it takes another 2 years to set up. Tempus fugit. I'll take what I can get, but.... meh.
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Old 05-08-2021, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Starcheck102 View Post
I oppose the company memorandum, and wholeheartedly support the Master Chairman’s decision to respond with a grievance. We must resist all forms of outsourcing, the primary task of a union is to preserve the jobs of its members.

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Kevin

Thank you for using your real name.

Would you ever support allowing more RJs at our DCI partners?

It’s easy to say what you posted. Let’s talk about what really matters. I see C44 leading the charge for some deal to allow our DCI carriers more RJs.

Obviously management wants them very badly.
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Kevin

Thank you for using your real name.

Would you ever support allowing more RJs at our DCI partners?

It’s easy to say what you posted. Let’s talk about what really matters. I see C44 leading the charge for some deal to allow our DCI carriers more RJs.

Obviously management wants them very badly.

How do you “see this?” You obviously aren’t talking to the 44 reps about what they think. I spoke with one of them last week and they couldn’t believe how stupid and tone deaf the memo was. And their idea for increasing smaller lift was “last I heard we have a bunch of 71s sitting in the dessert, just bring those back”

I get it, you want them gone for any reason you can find. But claiming that they are hungry to cave on scope when it’s easily verifiable that they feel the opposite hurts your cause.
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