Wolf424

This probably won’t go well, but I’m hoping maybe someone could talk objectively on this.

I’ve been out of the loop for the last year, and I’m not read into ALPA politics...but can someone *objectively* explain the reasoning behind the recall vote?

All I’ve been able to gather on social media is that some are upset that poll results weren’t released? And there seems to be some head-butting between those who supported RS vs JA for MEC Chairman.

CBreezy

I think the poll results thing is more of a salt to the wound. Here is what I gather. Generally, there is a lot of anger over what appears to be favoritism toward junior pilots vs senior pilots. The reps in ATL are fairly junior and many senior pilots feel that they are not addressing their retirement wants dating all the way back to the opener. There is a feeling from many that they are too quick to defend management versus taking the more hardline stance of some of the other councils. I think the movement started last year when they voted to rerun the bids following the Covid stuff and voted to allow 55 hour SILs without a requirement to use them. This was after supporting the Scheduling Chair who was fired for agreeing to low SIL values without consulting the MEC and opposing his removal and opposing the drawdown of VB and SIL LOAs (note: this may not have been all the same LEC reps but it contributes to the animous). Then when they kept delaying having a meeting even when other councils were having them, it started to gain momentum amongst other groups.

Other contributing factors are voting to approve the perceived management-friendly LOAs, voting out the previous MEC for a perceived management-friendly guy, voting against supporting FA unionization, and various other votes where they were either in the minority of LECs or perceived to be voting in the minority of social media popular opinion.

MJP27

lol.....it won't go well .....

jaxsurf

Yeah, this thread will be fun.

tennisguru

What are the odds the recall effort succeeds?

CBreezy

I would say the vote will pass at the meeting..

AlphaBeta

It will definitely pass. I think a lot of people are annoyed with the lack of meetings and their reasoning. The person leading the charge (BB) has no clout but the fact they kept delaying meetings as said above, caused a ton of momentum for this.

Herkflyr

It may pass, but I hope a lot of the junior guys are aware that BB, the chief architect and whiner, is actually angry that the junior guys did NOT get furloughed, and in fact is holding up a lack of furlough as a serious benefit that junior guys got at the "expense" of senior guys (and I am one of the modestly senior guys these days, and cannot fathom that kind of thinking).

I do agree that the lack of meetings is a real problem. But don't think for one second that this is about the "greater good" for C44. This is about a small cadre of already super-senior guys embracing the "got mine, want yours" mindset. If we vote out the current reps, the world will not come to an end, and we will move on with new reps, like we have for many years. But I don't think that anything better will result. Nor do I think that keeping them in office will herald great things either.

tennisguru

Their term is almost up anyways - I think there will be a normal election in the fall either way.

AlphaBeta

I agree, none of the “recall committee “ has anyone’s best interest in mind besides their own. This whole thing is just dividing us up more. And the fact “bb” has never apologized for his letter during bankruptcy is ridiculous.