Tropical

"Siri, define gaslighting".

CAFB 04-12

Yes, the AAL one is very similar. Delta has an audio/readback portion that it unique. The AAL personality test is more like a standard Hogan test, Delta's is slightly different. The dot counting, tunnel flying, and sudoku tests were the same.

CAFB 04-12

Humility is a fine trait that I'm always working on for sure.

But also, I've got a 100% clean, spotless 20 year military record across 6 different aircraft that required military and civilian training to complete. That should be worth something.

CAFB 04-12

I don't feel like you're getting what I'm saying. If you're a 20 year regional guy with a 100% clean history across multiple aircraft and no failures in any training, that would be worth the same I would think.

The Delta AON test is probably interesting for the data nerds.

CAFB 04-12

I've gone through the normal interview process with 3 other major airlines now and have CJOs will all but UPS (where I passed the interview and am waiting for training to start up again). I'm not asking to go to the front of the line. I'm asking Delta to not screen any pilots (including you, whatever your background is) using a 5x5 symbol sudoku and a nearly impossible dot counting exercise. Gather data and crunch it....fine. Not sure why this is controversial.

I have a background in a small but highly visible passenger carrying operation and have worked with people from all walks of life as flight attendants, flight engineers, and pilots (not to mention load masters and boom operators). Not sure why you're so angry, but this is the internet so I'll allow it.

CAFB 04-12

Not talking about a resume (as in a list of duty titles). I'm talking about 20 years of successful military and civilian training as well as 20+ check rides in 6 different aircraft.

100% agree about the in-person interview being a "weird dude" screen.

Delta can do what they want. They certainly need some sort of screen because they can't be expected to look at all 10,000 apps or whatever.

CAFB 04-12

Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say.

I've done everything else the rest of you have done to prep for the day to include paying thousands of $$$ for consultants and prep. Though I wish I had paid for Cut-e practice before the Delta AON test. Didn't realize it was a "thanks but don't call us we'll call you" kind of thing with them. Lesson learned. Feedback I've received from friends at Delta is usually along the lines of "Delta misses out on a lot of good pilots with that test." Maybe they're just being nice to my face.

tripled

Congrats, CAFB, on getting several other flying job offers. The transition from mil to airlines can be stressful and yours sounded a little moreso than normal. I’m sorry about the past PARB results but am glad for you that other options opened up. FWIW I think you should reapply to dal in a few months if u still want to try to get on here.

CAFB 04-12

Thanks. I update my app daily

immolated

While I see where you're coming from and would be equally frustrated, I'm also retired AF and to play the devil's advocate I'm actually a little surprised you're speaking up about this. How many unwinnable hazes or nonsensical exercises have we gone through throughout our career? Basic training assault course, UPT standup, years of CBTs, red dot/SARC/etc., SERE, UCIs, PRFs, ...competing against the holiday party planner for strats. The list goes on, you learn to roll your eyes, play the game, and deal with it.

At least with the AON, I can see why it's vaguely relevant, if not antiquated for a time when they had way too many qualified candidates to filter out. But after reading this thread for awhile and seeing people had failed it even in today's hiring market, I tabbed all the advice, put some prep work in, and passed just fine. Maybe that little bit of extra focused effort (which you're already on top of) is what puts some scores slightly ahead, impossible dot counting aside.