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Gone Flying 12-19-2021 08:31 AM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3338399)
UA does not have non day either FYI

5hour ADG
min*

too late to edit

172skychicken 12-19-2021 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by flyingfiddler (Post 3338396)
Wow. Even at Endeavor we get better than that.

If I have a 5 day trip with a 28hr layover that blocks 13:00, I get paid 25:00 for the trip. 4:00 min day, even when on a layover, and 5 day trips are rigged to credit 25hrs minimum.

There's lots of reasons why UAL is my #1 legacy, and this thread has only added more...
Endeavor also had plenty 16 hour 4 day trips. Here that would pay no less 21 hours. If it started early on the first day and ended late on the last day it would pay closer to 24 hours due to the 3.5:1 trip rig. A 5 day would pay 26:15, or as much as 32 just based off of the rig in the right scenario. I'm not against the idea of a min day here. I'm against the idea of obtaining a min day at any cost. We need some contractual control of rotation construction whether we get min day or not. But especially if we are going to try and force more credit via either a min day or a substantial improvement in ADG or the rigs IMO.

PilotJ3 12-19-2021 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by flyingfiddler (Post 3338396)
Wow. Even at Endeavor we get better than that.

If I have a 5 day trip with a 28hr layover that blocks 13:00, I get paid 25:00 for the trip. 4:00 min day, even when on a layover, and 5 day trips are rigged to credit 25hrs minimum.

There's lots of reasons why UAL is my #1 legacy, and this thread has only added more...
UAL also has airport standby, their reserve rules sucks and I don’t trust their CEO. Not that I trust EB, but Kirby? Ermmmm after enduring the AA/AE bankruptcy, no thanks.

At the end of the day, the grass is always greener on the other side.

OOfff 12-19-2021 11:05 AM
Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3338563)
UAL also has airport standby, their reserve rules sucks and I don’t trust their CEO. Not that I trust EB, but Kirby? Ermmmm after enduring the AA/AE bankruptcy, no thanks.

At the end of the day, the grass is always greener on the other side.
workers should never trust bosses.

TorqueWrench 12-19-2021 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3338567)
workers should never trust bosses.
Yes, the CPO is not your friend either.

notEnuf 12-19-2021 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3338084)
Has anybody ever heard...."I never thought they would do that"?

The contract is always in a state of flux when negotiations arise. Sometimes the company utters those words.... sometimes we do. Things like scheduling and trip pairings have a wide latitude of unintended consequences.

Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. The argument that, " We had that a previious airline" holds no water, because there are way too many variables.

JMHO
I disagree, those of us who have worked elsewhere have a perspective those who have not will never see. Besides it used to be different here too, before the parings got all Gummed up.

boog123 12-19-2021 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3337151)
I wonder what our bids would look like if reserve included unlimited 14 hour short calls, sliding off days and airport standby?
Wonder what WB life would be like with the 100 more WB’s and scope. What’s a few thousand more WB positions here and there. There, I can cherry pick too.

tcco94 12-20-2021 07:14 AM
Do people flash around their legacy rankings as if it has some sort of meaning on an airline forum? I can't think of any reason why anyone would care what your #1 legacy ranking is and that's all subjective to the person. If you want to go work for united, go to United. Why would you declare this on a Delta forum?

Weirdos probably can't even get a call from Atlas....

notEnuf 12-20-2021 07:33 AM
Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3339014)
Do people flash around their legacy rankings as if it has some sort of meaning on an airline forum? I can't think of any reason why anyone would care what your #1 legacy ranking is and that's all subjective to the person. If you want to go work for united, go to United. Why would you declare this on a Delta forum?

Weirdos probably can't even get a call from Atlas....
My #1 was UPS. I F'ed that up and got the Thanks, but no thanks. I settled on my #3 Delta. I'm happy with the result but... peaking over the fence, UPS has some nice fertilized lawn and it's really GREEN. ;) Oh well, back to my misery and suffering. :cool: I love the college football atmosphere though, BTW Atlas made the top 25. :D

Iceberg 12-20-2021 07:34 AM
Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3339014)
Do people flash around their legacy rankings as if it has some sort of meaning on an airline forum? I can't think of any reason why anyone would care what your #1 legacy ranking is and that's all subjective to the person. If you want to go work for united, go to United. Why would you declare this on a Delta forum?

Weirdos probably can't even get a call from Atlas....
Forum posturing is a key factor to success in this industry.


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