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#1051
This.
No one knows except the people in the room and it doesn’t benefit anyone to leak it until the language is finalized.
I’m not paying any attention to the rumors. All that’s important is that they have an AIP. Don’t get wrapped around the axle on details that are highly likely to be incorrect or incomplete.
#1052
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This.
No one knows except the people in the room and it doesn’t benefit anyone to leak it until the language is finalized.
I’m not paying any attention to the rumors. All that’s important is that they have an AIP. Don’t get wrapped around the axle on details that are highly likely to be incorrect or incomplete.
No one knows except the people in the room and it doesn’t benefit anyone to leak it until the language is finalized.
I’m not paying any attention to the rumors. All that’s important is that they have an AIP. Don’t get wrapped around the axle on details that are highly likely to be incorrect or incomplete.
#1054
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This.
No one knows except the people in the room and it doesn’t benefit anyone to leak it until the language is finalized.
I’m not paying any attention to the rumors. All that’s important is that they have an AIP. Don’t get wrapped around the axle on details that are highly likely to be incorrect or incomplete.
No one knows except the people in the room and it doesn’t benefit anyone to leak it until the language is finalized.
I’m not paying any attention to the rumors. All that’s important is that they have an AIP. Don’t get wrapped around the axle on details that are highly likely to be incorrect or incomplete.
#1055
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#1058
Posted this in another thread but got buried:
For the uninitiated like me, what actually happens with voting no on a TA? Why would that do anything effective? Can’t the company just say “sorry you voted no, too bad. Take it or leave it?” Can it potentially become worse when TA2 comes around?
WRT voting no can somebody explain the benefits and process? I’m uneasy about sending a 8/10 contract back to the table, in the hopes of a 10/10, when it just drags things out longer and the best possible was 8/10 anyway.
I’m sure I’m misunderstanding it but hoping for some clarification. Thank you.
For the uninitiated like me, what actually happens with voting no on a TA? Why would that do anything effective? Can’t the company just say “sorry you voted no, too bad. Take it or leave it?” Can it potentially become worse when TA2 comes around?
WRT voting no can somebody explain the benefits and process? I’m uneasy about sending a 8/10 contract back to the table, in the hopes of a 10/10, when it just drags things out longer and the best possible was 8/10 anyway.
I’m sure I’m misunderstanding it but hoping for some clarification. Thank you.
#1059
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Posted this in another thread but got buried:
For the uninitiated like me, what actually happens with voting no on a TA? Why would that do anything effective? Can’t the company just say “sorry you voted no, too bad. Take it or leave it?” Can it potentially become worse when TA2 comes around?
WRT voting no can somebody explain the benefits and process? I’m uneasy about sending a 8/10 contract back to the table, in the hopes of a 10/10, when it just drags things out longer and the best possible was 8/10 anyway.
I’m sure I’m misunderstanding it but hoping for some clarification. Thank you.
For the uninitiated like me, what actually happens with voting no on a TA? Why would that do anything effective? Can’t the company just say “sorry you voted no, too bad. Take it or leave it?” Can it potentially become worse when TA2 comes around?
WRT voting no can somebody explain the benefits and process? I’m uneasy about sending a 8/10 contract back to the table, in the hopes of a 10/10, when it just drags things out longer and the best possible was 8/10 anyway.
I’m sure I’m misunderstanding it but hoping for some clarification. Thank you.
The parties go back to negotiations. There is a house cleaning within alpa. Reps are recalled, the admin and NC are likely changed. That takes time. They will negotiate a new deal. Maybe it’s better, maybe it’s not. Last time our next deal was significantly better, it took a little over a year. People will talk about the time value of money as an argument to take the bird in the hand. Everyone will want to justify their decision with their predictions for the future. IMO, you should judge any TA based on its merits, and the likely outcomes of it passing/failing.
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The parties go back to negotiations. There is a house cleaning within alpa. Reps are recalled, the admin and NC are likely changed. That takes time. They will negotiate a new deal. Maybe it’s better, maybe it’s not. Last time our next deal was significantly better, it took a little over a year. People will talk about the time value of money as an argument to take the bird in the hand. Everyone will want to justify their decision with their predictions for the future. IMO, you should judge any TA based on its merits, and the likely outcomes of it passing/failing.
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