I consider 100% retro like last time a pipe dream at this point. I hope I'm wrong.

Food for Thought
 

Our last annual pay raise was Jan of 2019. A 10% increase in pay rates gets us to ZERO gain in purchasing power over the last three years.

Somebody gets the importance of timely contracts.

yawn, on time substandard contracts are not worth it. Its the reason our current contract is lacking is do many areas. The "we'll get it next time" attatude has to stop.

Please look at the history of improvements in contracts and how they have been achieved. Timeliness is critical both for our contract and the pressure it puts on other airlines to raise their pilot costs to match ours. Every time we have swung for a grand slam we struck out.

No way - I'd take a contract with a 3-5% increase per year over waiting 5 years for a 15% raise. TVM first (which is a real thing) and it keeps the negotiation cycle moving along. We get other improvements in a new contract other than pay too.

Didn't US Airways aim for the moon and spend like 8-10 years waiting for a contract (and being stuck at very low wages - if I remember, a topped out 320 Captain there made as much as a ER FO here) then eventually get a mediocre contract that was basically 3% per year anyway.

Maybe if we weren’t always going first, we could pattern off the others.

I don't think we should ever accept unacceptable terms like C15 proposed (i.e. reduction in PS) but agree that it's silly to try and hit a home run every cycle. Especially considering if we had signed an agreement, we potentially could be opening negotiations on our next contract soon.

I enjoy how a few of you live in this alternate reality that believes we would have gotten a contract in 2020 if we just asked for less. The reality is if our current contract wasn't as substandard as it is we wouldn't have had to ask for much
But it is substandard in many areas that need improving on this cycle, it's not about the $ or pay rates it's about every other portion of the contract that has been neglected.

US Airways was stuck with a double bankruptcy contract because of the SLI dispute. The company argued there can be No JCBA without a single list. Obvious BS but that’s what happened until the AA merge and they magically threw money at the warring parties