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CBreezy 01-24-2022 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3358838)
I've never understood this sentiment. You could have the best product in the world but if no one can buy and experience it, who really cares? I've been drinking Stumptown for years (grew up on the west coast) and I can honestly say that it's still the same quality, enjoyable coffee that I remember. As long as quality of the product and life for employees doesn't suffer, I don't have a problem with a producer "going corporate" (whatever that means) and making their product more widely available.


Never tried Beechers, gonna have to check it out next time I'm through SEA. Floret has always been my go to. Valentine in MKE was very good. Only got to try then once before covid shut everything down. Been through MKE a few times recently and it is still shuttered not the signage and equipment are still there so maybe they're gonna make a go of it again? Collectivo Coffee used to have a spot in MKE too but I haven't seen them recently. Another really good local roaster (MKE has a surprisingly solid coffee scene!)

I agree 100%. There is an absurd human mental issue with, the less valuable a food product is, no matter how good, is automatically more valuable. I think there was an article about a restaurant in NYC that had like a 2 month wait for reservations and they served canned food.

crewdawg 01-24-2022 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3358838)
I've never understood this sentiment. You could have the best product in the world but if no one can buy and experience it, who really cares? I've been drinking Stumptown for years (grew up on the west coast) and I can honestly say that it's still the same quality, enjoyable coffee that I remember. As long as quality of the product and life for employees doesn't suffer, I don't have a problem with a producer "going corporate" (whatever that means) and making their product more widely available.


Lol so true. It reminds me of the early fans of some of my favorite punk rock bands. Their early fans get all up in arms because the band decided to get a label and start making money off their talents. Bands, I likely never would have heard of since I don't live in socal. I guess they just want their favorite bands to themselves and for them to be poor/stuck in squalor.

OOfff 01-24-2022 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3358838)
I've never understood this sentiment. You could have the best product in the world but if no one can buy and experience it, who really cares? I've been drinking Stumptown for years (grew up on the west coast) and I can honestly say that it's still the same quality, enjoyable coffee that I remember. As long as quality of the product and life for employees doesn't suffer, I don't have a problem with a producer "going corporate" (whatever that means) and making their product more widely available.


Never tried Beechers, gonna have to check it out next time I'm through SEA. Floret has always been my go to. Valentine in MKE was very good. Only got to try them once before covid shut everything down. Been through MKE a few times recently and it is still shuttered but the signage and equipment are still there so maybe they're gonna make a go of it again? Collectivo Coffee used to have a spot in MKE too but I haven't seen them recently. Another really good local roaster (MKE has a surprisingly solid coffee scene!)

in fairness, history is rife with examples of quality suffering with corporate expansion. The bean counters come for us all.

edit: that plus scarcity breeds interest. Nobody cares much about something you can get everywhere.

freezingflyboy 01-24-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3358846)
Lol so true. It reminds me of the early fans of some of my favorite punk rock bands. Their early fans get all up in arms because the band decided to get a label and start making money off their talents. Bands, I likely never would have heard of since I don't live in socal. I guess they just want their favorite bands to themselves and for them to be poor/stuck in squalor.

Ha I know exactly what you mean. I came up in the west coast punk scene of the 90s and I think you nailed it. People (rightly or wrongly) feel a fierce sense of ownership of "their" bands. For some, once they are forced to "share" with others (via a contract with a label) it's like the shine is instantly off and the anger severe.

Now to be fair, there are plenty of examples of bands (and products) getting big distribution contracts or making tweaks in the name of profitability and the product just absolutely tanks. But there are just as many examples where that is not the case. I think the same must be true of coffee.

velosnow 01-24-2022 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3358838)
Collectivo Coffee used to have a spot in MKE too but I haven't seen them recently. Another really good local roaster (MKE has a surprisingly solid coffee scene!)

That brings back memories, that was a really good spot!


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