Airfrance is on the move in North America
 

Looks like our transatlantic partner expects strong summer travel:
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/air-...tinations/?amp

“North America Exceeds 2019 Capacity

Air France decided to add capacity from Paris to the US, its leading long-haul destination. During the summer, the French airline will operate close to 200 flights per week, which is 20% more than in 2019. In total, AF will serve 14 destinations in the country.

The most important long-haul destination for the French flag carrier is New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport (JFK). The airline decided to reintroduce its daily flight between Paris-Orly (ORY) and JFK, along with the other six daily flights from Paris-Charles de Gaulle (CDG).

The carrier and its American partner, Delta Air Lines (DL), have introduced a special “shuttle” service between the two cities. The two airlines operate eight daily flights between CDG and JFK (six AF flights and two DL flights). Starting in early June, the airlines are to offer regular departures every one or two hours during the day from CDG and during the afternoon and evening from JFK.

Last week, AF reopened its route between CDG and Dallas Fort-Worth (DFW), with five weekly flights. Moreover, the airline will resume its seasonal route to Denver (DEN) with three flights per week. AF had already flown this route last year during the summer using its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners.

In Canada too, AF plans to exceed its pre-pandemic levels, with a 25% increase in capacity. The airline will inaugurate a new route from CDG to Quebec City (YQB), with three weekly flights. The airline says it will become the first European airline in terms of capacity between Europe and Canada.“

And don't forget to keep an eye on the Korean Air and Asiana merger in the Pacific. A lot of threats to our scope out there. Hope DALPA is staying frosty on this.

Yep. The only real enforcement mechanism with teeth is to force any amount of the code share, connections and revenue sharing beyond what we agree to be pulled down immediately when it exceeds our Scope.

Air France increasing trans-Atlantic 20%….while we keep pushing our WB bid, and associated under-staffing, into the fall. Makes total sense.

We are not, and never will be a WB airline. This is why profit sharing is so vital,

You say that like its two separate entities making independent decisions. PPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT. :rolleyes:

LOL. So all those 350s, 330s(7+ deliveries this year) 767-400s and 767-300s are just imaginary? [emoji23]

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That’s not what he meant, and you know it. And in a thread specifically talking about the AF JV grossly outstripping our international lift, no less…

Yall act like Delta did not announce significant Atlantic flying expansion this summer. 2014 hire 7ERAs hires are already getting called out on reserve to fly across the ocean. Many will be flying them on Greens this summer. Folks getting all worked up posting foreign carrier headlines and while completely ignoring our own

https://www.travelandleisure.com/tra...0this%20summer.

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Have you seen the SCOE compliance reports?

Correct. Imaginary until you or someone here is sitting in one.

Of course.

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Just like the parking of the 777 was imaginary.

These are separate issues. PS may very, very thinly correlate with WB outsourcing but it cannot and will not ever come close to making up for Scope shortcomings.

I don't know why so many among us continue to parrot this false equivalence.

It's not a false equivalence. It's pointing out that it aligns our compensation with managements expansion of the corporation and profit motive. In this they are working for us instead of against us.

Ugh. Bruh.

You really don't think our Scope shortcomings, let alone any potential further degradation, will ever be recovered in the portion of those prorated profits that end up in our Valentine's Day checks do you?

If you really believe that, you should be demanding Scope concessions. The more we give up, the more we'll make!

No, but my 30-50K checks have paid me more than the A330 or A350 ever did or will. Management has made a choice on the direction of the business and the plan going forward. You , I, and ALPA have NO control over the 1,3,5,10 year business plan. I prefer having a piece of that. It's about so much more, Subsidiarity profits, AMEX, Delta vacations, Monroe energy etc.

Seems absurd to be saying this right now when we will most likely be coming up on year 3 of exactly $0 of bonus money. The added seniority and QOL would easily make up the difference for most people if we just had scope favorable to our pilots. So if the 10 year business plan included abandoning all International flying and growing regional flying so we shrink to 8,000 pilots you support that if if grows a potential bonus by 10%? You really have no control over that, so we should just resign to our fate? We are own worst enemy. I really hope you are in the minority and hopefully it is a very small minority.

The relatively short track record with PS payouts does not stand as justification of our Scope or QOL shortcomings. Not only can we go years without any significant PS, but massive code share abuses and trashed domestic pairings aren't the "secret sauce" to our PS payments even when they're at their peak.

Some also attempt to defend the QOL smashing Optimizer (that force multiplies our redundant fleets and excessive BES's to save credit and hotel costs on spreadsheets) because we've become so emotionally addicted to large PS checks that we conflate all our QOL and Scope shortcomings with it in its entirety. We're profitable, PS checks are good, ergo everything bad is justifiable because without it we'd have no PS checks.

Even if that were true (and its not even close to being the case) I'd still prefer significant QOL and Scope gains to the entire PS check. For the reading comprehension impaired, I am not in favor of any reductions in the PS in the PWA. But I prioritize Scope and QOL gains even if that means a reduction in what ends up in the PS checks.

Literally being in the business of selling our jobs to the lowest bidders in an attempt to loss harvest that back with our share of the profits that generates is asinine.

You just don’t get it. I’m saying we must absolutely keep what we have and not sell any of it. SCOPE needs to be recovered not sold. PROFIT SHARING must remain untouched because it is a percentage multiplier. QOL must improve. And a bridge agreement with annual increases must happen. Nobody is saying give. The company has been very profitable under the current PWA constraints and normal competitive situations. This industry always suffers when the black swan arrives but our management has been positioning the corporation to be even more successful into the recovery. We are already proving we lead the pack.

OK thanks for clarifying. I would agree with this.

I think our current PS is a sacred cow at this point and most likely a permanent part of any future PWA. So much so that it may even survive another trip to the Ch 11 barber shop. After all, it only pays out a small share of profits when they exist so good luck trying to get that tossed.

I just hope we can avoid becoming so emotionally attached to it that we feel our "interests are aligned" with the company financially when they want to outsource more and more flying at any level.

Summer is going to be the litmus test for that. And from what I am reading here and elsewhere, the foot injury that we have will start to fester, and it won't be pretty. And.... it was self induced.

We will see, but I have told everyone I know not to fly anywhere this summer (on ANY airline) unless you have the patience of Job and nothing to do for a couple of days.

It will be rough on the operation, I agreed. Financially specific, that’s when Delta does well. It’ll be running a little more hotter… again. :mad::eek: