Hundreds of cancellations
05-14-2022, 04:57 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by 3 green
I noticed the ATL73NB had tons of open time that disappeared, and I'm guessing it went to reroutes or canceled. Not one single IA was given out which tells me no attempt was made. I wonder how many guys were rerouted into an illegal rotation since the open time was known about more than 14 hours out and no attempt was made to follow the trip coverage ladder, which includes IA's. That means if someone was rerouted into that open time, it was an illegal reroute (a lot of extra pay) and someone would be pay protected as well. Correct?
05-14-2022, 06:17 PM
#44
Can’t find crew pickup
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Originally Posted by 3 green
I noticed the ATL73NB had tons of open time that disappeared, and I'm guessing it went to reroutes or canceled. Not one single IA was given out which tells me no attempt was made. I wonder how many guys were rerouted into an illegal rotation since the open time was known about more than 14 hours out and no attempt was made to follow the trip coverage ladder, which includes IA's. That means if someone was rerouted into that open time, it was an illegal reroute (a lot of extra pay) and someone would be pay protected as well. Correct?
05-15-2022, 01:22 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
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Hundreds of cancellations
Originally Posted by Trip7
Somebody jacked up the 737/320 scheduling/staffing of FOs on weekends. Surprisingly, I haven't seen too much effort from the company to utilize GSWC.
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I think what has been shown is that scheduling and tracking don’t know how to use GSWC. Running coverage through GS and up to IA takes so much time/effort/institutional knowledge that they just throw their hands up. If they can’t get IAs right (23.M debacle) then they certainly won’t get GSWC right.
I find it ironic that they pushed so hard for ARCOS for efficiency, but it seems that at the end of the day that is a handcuff. What they need is more people that know what they’re doing to cover trips quickly and efficiently.
05-15-2022, 03:40 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I think what has been shown is that scheduling and tracking don’t know how to use GSWC. Running coverage through GS and up to IA takes so much time/effort/institutional knowledge that they just throw their hands up. If they can’t get IAs right (23.M debacle) then they certainly won’t get GSWC right.
I find it ironic that they pushed so hard for ARCOS for efficiency, but it seems that at the end of the day that is a handcuff. What they need is more people that know what they’re doing to cover trips quickly and efficiently.
I find it ironic that they pushed so hard for ARCOS for efficiency, but it seems that at the end of the day that is a handcuff. What they need is more people that know what they’re doing to cover trips quickly and efficiently.
05-15-2022, 04:59 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Oct 2021
Position: 757/767 F/O
Posts: 46
Originally Posted by 3 green
Yes. When they run batches of 5 on short notice greenslips it doesn't work well. I see trips push late sometimes because it takes so long to get a pilot assigned to a trip. Also, if they don't try an IA to cover a trip known about more than 14 hours out, then they reroute someone into that opentime, it's an illegal reroute. Everyone getting rerouted needs to watch this close.
If you are being rerouted how can you tell if the trip had been in OT or not unless you are constantly monitoring it?
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05-15-2022, 05:21 AM
#49
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
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Posts: 425
Originally Posted by Snookered
If you are being rerouted how can you tell if the trip had been in OT or not unless you are constantly monitoring it?
05-15-2022, 05:23 AM
#50
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,981
Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I think what has been shown is that scheduling and tracking don’t know how to use GSWC. Running coverage through GS and up to IA takes so much time/effort/institutional knowledge that they just throw their hands up. If they can’t get IAs right (23.M debacle) then they certainly won’t get GSWC right.
I find it ironic that they pushed so hard for ARCOS for efficiency, but it seems that at the end of the day that is a handcuff. What they need is more people that know what they’re doing to cover trips quickly and efficiently.
I find it ironic that they pushed so hard for ARCOS for efficiency, but it seems that at the end of the day that is a handcuff. What they need is more people that know what they’re doing to cover trips quickly and efficiently.
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