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Old 05-17-2022, 04:09 AM
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Ed: We're properly staffed for Summer because there won't be enough jet fuel to fly a full schedule

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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg View Post
Hack journalism.

Yeah that article definitely won't be winning a Pulitzer prize. Here's a much better article that clearly explains the dilemma

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepoin...shortages/amp/

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Originally Posted by jaxsurf View Post
Is it? I always hear mixed things about our refinery so I never know what to believe.



How do you find info on how well the refinery is doing?
Delta Quarterly and Annual Earning report. All available on Delta's Investor Relations page. Does take a bit of digging. Attached data is from the Q1 Earnings report.

Looks like the Refinery produced $53m in profit and reduced fuel cost per gallon to the Company by 7 cents



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I don't know why people seem to care if the refinery is "profitable" or not. What if DL spun off its HQ into a wholly owned subsidiary and leased it back to itself. Would it be "profitable"? Who cares.
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Been ferrying fuel from point A to point B on an increased basis.

Inference would be that regional jet fuel prices are different enough to make this make economic sense, and the regional cost spikes have to be caused by something.
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That same website you referenced states $3.95 back in July 2008. So I was off by a few years. Also inflation adjusted it was much more damaging.
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Been ferrying fuel from point A to point B on an increased basis.

Inference would be that regional jet fuel prices are different enough to make this make economic sense, and the regional cost spikes have to be caused by something.
Been tankering a lot recently too. Seems some areas are short enough to warrant this.
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Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
Delta Quarterly and Annual Earning report. All available on Delta's Investor Relations page. Does take a bit of digging. Attached data is from the Q1 Earnings report.

Looks like the Refinery produced $53m in profit and reduced fuel cost per gallon to the Company by 7 cents



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Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
Delta Quarterly and Annual Earning report. All available on Delta's Investor Relations page. Does take a bit of digging. Attached data is from the Q1 Earnings report.

Looks like the Refinery produced $53m in profit and reduced fuel cost per gallon to the Company by 7 cents



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Speaking of reports, United just updated Q2 guidance with TRASM up 23%-25% compared to 2019!

Even with fuel predicted at $4.03 per gallon, they’re expecting 10% margins on 14% less capacity when compared to 2019.

So I have no idea what that journalist in your article was smoking. They were picking and choosing statements/facts from different points in time.

If United with their huge exposure to Asia is still forecasting a 10% margin, with $4.03/gallon then I expect Delta to be 3-5 points higher!

Sounds like Kirby is saying the biggest issue with revenue management and a slowing of bookings is that they’re trying to raise prices fast enough so that they don’t sellout too quickly, but they’re failing at it!

United 8-K:

https://ir.united.com/static-files/8...9-9614c0d331b6
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Old 05-17-2022, 06:55 PM
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I still don't understand why I'm always tankering fuel into PHL.
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