Summer Is Coming!
05-19-2022, 12:27 PM
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Sailingfun continues to show what a management shill he is. He is truly out of touch with reality and the current state of the Delta Pilots. I am embarrassed by his insensitivity and lack of support for any form of Pilot unity towards protecting out futures. The pilots aren’t to blame for the Summer train wreck that approaches. We have already seen hints of what is to come and how management plans to handle it. Just because many of us are burnt out and have spent all of our good will doesn’t make us responsible for the misery that awaits.
05-19-2022, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes...
Originally Posted by sailingfun
That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
05-19-2022, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
05-19-2022, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
05-19-2022, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
Have you ever read Catch 22? I don’t think any of those pilots wanted to lose the war. They were just acutely aware of the problems of their leaders and had a morbid curiosity about it as we do here on APC.
What if everybody felt that way?
Yossarian: Then I’d be a damn fool to feel any other way.
Yossarian: Then I’d be a damn fool to feel any other way.
05-19-2022, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
To borrow a phrase, “Max pay ‘till the final day”.
No pension. No post retirement medical. With less than 5 years to go my goal is to make the most I can until the music stops. If the lights go out the day after I throw my ID on the chief pilots desk it doesn’t affect me.
Selfish? Maybe so, but business is business. The promises made to me when I was hired were broken. I’m here for the $$.
05-20-2022, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
To borrow a phrase, “Max pay ‘till the final day”.
No pension. No post retirement medical. With less than 5 years to go my goal is to make the most I can until the music stops. If the lights go out the day after I throw my ID on the chief pilots desk it doesn’t affect me.
Selfish? Maybe so, but business is business. The promises made to me when I was hired were broken. I’m here for the $$.
No pension. No post retirement medical. With less than 5 years to go my goal is to make the most I can until the music stops. If the lights go out the day after I throw my ID on the chief pilots desk it doesn’t affect me.
Selfish? Maybe so, but business is business. The promises made to me when I was hired were broken. I’m here for the $$.
Also, how to destroy the sympathies of those on the fence.
05-20-2022, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
To borrow a phrase, “Max pay ‘till the final day”.
No pension. No post retirement medical. With less than 5 years to go my goal is to make the most I can until the music stops. If the lights go out the day after I throw my ID on the chief pilots desk it doesn’t affect me.
Selfish? Maybe so, but business is business. The promises made to me when I was hired were broken. I’m here for the $$.
No pension. No post retirement medical. With less than 5 years to go my goal is to make the most I can until the music stops. If the lights go out the day after I throw my ID on the chief pilots desk it doesn’t affect me.
Selfish? Maybe so, but business is business. The promises made to me when I was hired were broken. I’m here for the $$.
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