Summer Is Coming!
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Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
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A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Not if its a cancellation that never couldn't not be cancelled.
This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,098
Not if its a cancellation that never couldn't not be cancelled.
This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
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Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,508
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,905
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
If you truly don’t understand the reaction, you don’t understand or appreciate human nature any better than management. You get what you pay for. What goes around comes around. The Golden Rule. Rules of the Road. All that stuff.
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