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Old 05-19-2022, 06:34 AM
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Old 05-19-2022, 06:37 AM
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Beware the Ides of June. And July. And August.
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Old 05-19-2022, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
Beware the Ides of June. And July. And August.

Can you imagine the chaos if it were a leap year?

So polish those epaulettes and un-furrow those brows, because summer is going to be a bloodbath.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:58 AM
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Can you imagine the chaos if it were a leap year?

So polish those epaulettes and un-furrow those brows, because summer is going to be a bloodbath.
Part of the bloodbath will be self inflicted by GS FOMO. Self-discipline can improve QOL dramatically.
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Can you imagine the chaos if it were a leap year?

So polish those epaulettes and un-furrow those brows, because summer is going to be a bloodbath.
A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 05-19-2022, 11:03 AM
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Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets.
Not if its a cancellation that never couldn't not be cancelled.

This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
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Not if its a cancellation that never couldn't not be cancelled.

This isn't a staffing issue. Its a Marketing outranks FltOps issue when FltOps needs to absolutely dominate marketing in rank. They can ask if we can do X amount. If we say no, we can only do Y amount, then Y amount it is. Building unrealistic schedules by counting theoretical best case money we haven't made yet based on everything going perfectly as we ride the redline into infinity and beyond and then "going to war with the army we have" trying to make it happen is a mistake as inevitable as it is avoidable.
It's all on our CEO not that marketing outranks Flt ops. He can correct it but evidentially sees no problems.
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A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.
I don't think anyone is truly gleeful seeing all the meltdowns, in fact it's quite the opposite. It's just become so predictable it's almost comical. As was said above there is nothing we can do as a pilot group to get us back to the reliability our customers are used to and our recent reputation has been built on. We are going to cancel a large number of flights this summer, even if the pilot group "steps to the plate" en masse to cover GS's and IA's. Even guys that are out there making it rain with all the extra pay are going to hit a wall. But by the grace of God someone won't hit that wall on short final in stormy weather on day 6 in a row coming off min rest. Delta's operational performance is by and large out of the hands of our pilots. Yes grabbing GS's and IA's will lessen the pain to a degree, but nothing short of a massive across the board schedule reduction will allow us to run a reliable operation. And the C-suite has shown that they are willing to sacrifice reliability on the altar of revenue.
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A bloodbath will be devastating for the careers of pilots with more than 5 years to go. Every single cancelation is ultimately money out of pilots pockets. It was not that many years ago that we were a very bad airline. We were getting 86% of the revenue UAL and AMR got. A CEO came in with a ruthless focus on reliability. His methods were laughed at on this and other forums. Soon we were pulling in 115% of UAL and AMR and setting a standard for reliability never seen in this industry. Regardless of the reason and I agree our current CEO seems more focused on social causes than running a airline poor performance by the airline is incredibly damaging to Delta pilot careers. That’s why I just don’t get the glee about past and future meltdowns. Lots of posts on here about not helping fix managements problems. I have a hard time understanding how someone could make it through flight training and not understand that managements problems are also our problems regardless of who created them. If we truly have a summer meltdown we are years away from true profits and growth will be vastly reduced long term. Many here will be posting about the meltdowns with glee. What can you say, stupid is as stupid does.

If you truly don’t understand the reaction, you don’t understand or appreciate human nature any better than management. You get what you pay for. What goes around comes around. The Golden Rule. Rules of the Road. All that stuff.

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Old 05-19-2022, 11:22 AM
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What's the "brand perfect" day count up to now? -365??? To continue to solve the problem beyond our control feeds the beast.
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