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gzsg 06-12-2022 09:11 AM

The Big Picture
 
In another thread a pilot said the Envoy/Piedmont rates were nothing but a trick to hold them in place until the die. He said we need to see the “entire picture.”

I agree. When we view the TA (if there is a TA approved by the UAL MEC) view the hourly raises with the facts about the United States government printing $16 Trillion dollars in the past 24 months. Quadrupling our money supply.

This fact is so staggering I can’t begin to understand the ramifications. No one can. We are in uncharted territory.

In my opinion, raises we are used to like 4% or 5% are meaningless. A grain of sand on the beach. Take the time to read and learn before you buy what is headed your way. It will define your career and our profession.

To understand the magnitude of the Fed’s money printing, we need to go back 22 months ago. At the start of 2020, there was $4.0192 trillion in circulation. On January 4, 2021, the number increased to $6.7 trillion dollars. Then the Fed went into overdrive. By October 2021, that number climbed to $20.0831 trillion dollars in circulation.

Aquaticus 06-12-2022 10:27 AM

Why don't you post this on your delta forum? A large majority of us understand the situation. We also understand the importance of not letting rumors run rampant and looking at the TA in its entirety including the sections that bring value outside of the pay rate. You don't understand our current contract or what is important to us and yet you are here on another pilot groups board fanning the flames on pure speculation and negativity.

iahflyr 06-12-2022 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3439451)
Why don't you post this on your delta forum?

gzsg is a Delta guy? This makes so much more sense now.

jaxsurf 06-12-2022 03:10 PM

You guys can keep him here :D

MasterOfPuppets 06-12-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg;[url=tel:3439388
3439388[/url]]In another thread a pilot said the Envoy/Piedmont rates were nothing but a trick to hold them in place until the die. He said we need to see the “entire picture.”

I agree. When we view the TA (if there is a TA approved by the UAL MEC) view the hourly raises with the facts about the United States government printing $16 Trillion dollars in the past 24 months. Quadrupling our money supply.

This fact is so staggering I can’t begin to understand the ramifications. No one can. We are in uncharted territory.

In my opinion, raises we are used to like 4% or 5% are meaningless. A grain of sand on the beach. Take the time to read and learn before you buy what is headed your way. It will define your career and our profession.

To understand the magnitude of the Fed’s money printing, we need to go back 22 months ago. At the start of 2020, there was $4.0192 trillion in circulation. On January 4, 2021, the number increased to $6.7 trillion dollars. Then the Fed went into overdrive. By October 2021, that number climbed to $20.0831 trillion dollars in circulation.

pay rates aren’t worth the paper they are written on. We never keep them when the times get hard. Remember the contracts we got back in 2000? Adjusted for inflation we still haven’t gotten back to those contracts.

im all for QOL pay doesn’t mean anything if I’m constantly re routed in a middle seat in economy. Or I have to roll thunder to make ends meet. I want to work 50 hours a month and have a nice life style. So we’ll see what is in the TA but CH 3 will be the last chapter I look at.

fadec 06-13-2022 06:08 PM

Pay isn't important. Your spouse can always work more and replace that income. Daycare is cheap and children need hardening anyway. QOL has no substitute.

Gspeed 06-13-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3439451)
Why don't you post this on your delta forum? A large majority of us understand the situation. We also understand the importance of not letting rumors run rampant and looking at the TA in its entirety including the sections that bring value outside of the pay rate. You don't understand our current contract or what is important to us and yet you are here on another pilot groups board fanning the flames on pure speculation and negativity.

No, no, we insist…..you guys can have him.

C17man 06-16-2022 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3439388)
In another thread a pilot said the Envoy/Piedmont rates were nothing but a trick to hold them in place until the die. He said we need to see the “entire picture.”

I agree. When we view the TA (if there is a TA approved by the UAL MEC) view the hourly raises with the facts about the United States government printing $16 Trillion dollars in the past 24 months. Quadrupling our money supply.

This fact is so staggering I can’t begin to understand the ramifications. No one can. We are in uncharted territory.

In my opinion, raises we are used to like 4% or 5% are meaningless. A grain of sand on the beach. Take the time to read and learn before you buy what is headed your way. It will define your career and our profession.

To understand the magnitude of the Fed’s money printing, we need to go back 22 months ago. At the start of 2020, there was $4.0192 trillion in circulation. On January 4, 2021, the number increased to $6.7 trillion dollars. Then the Fed went into overdrive. By October 2021, that number climbed to $20.0831 trillion dollars in circulation.

I don’t think this guy would be happy with any amount of $$.

theUpsideDown 06-16-2022 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3440395)
No, no, we insist…..you guys can have him.

I would also like to echo the sentiments of Gspeed. Please, please, you all take him.

He is fun at parties.

interceptorpilo 06-17-2022 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by C17man (Post 3442461)
I don’t think this guy would be happy with any amount of $$.

I think he has some great points. Inflation is out of control. 15% plus since the last contract ended. And that is just going to get us even on buying power.


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