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boog123 10-24-2022 07:43 AM
I wonder when the new guy is gonna figure out he’s doing more harm than good?

ellsworb 10-24-2022 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3518948)
I wonder when the new guy is gonna figure out he’s doing more harm than good?
I wonder when Flight Ops “leadership” and the c-suite are going to realize they made a giant mistake?

Going2Baja 10-24-2022 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L (Post 3518464)
If you want a new contract it's important to have adults in the room that know a good deal when they see one.

3 of the 4 rep candidates can do this. The incumbent Blankenship has shown he cannot be trusted to do so.

He was the ONLY First Officer Rep to vote against LOA 20-04. If you don't remember, 20-04 provided furlough protection for UNA's.

He was against protecting these pilots' jobs. Now he's hoping you won't remember.

By all appearances he is an entrenched DALPA insider that votes the way he's told. His handlers are censoring any attempt to present the real story on the C54 Facebook page and I assume they will be along here shortly to shout this down.

Read for yourself and share with other SEA-based pilots:

c54election.com

So your first post was 2 days ago? Entrenched DALPA? It’s his first time on the horseshoe. My guess is you’re a friend of the person running and just throwing 💩 at a wall to see if it sticks. Did you see the results of round one? Wes won nearly 3 to 1. He’s definitely not a ‘do what he’s told’ kind of guy, I’ve seen him in action and there’s no one else I’d want to see representing te SEA pilots.

Scooter432 10-24-2022 08:05 AM
Won’t find any better pilot advocate than Wes. Not my council, but y’all are fools to vote him out.

BravoTo16L 10-24-2022 09:25 AM
Actions not Words
 
To the lurkers:

Read the LOA language yourself and then ask yourself why a rep, particularly an FO rep, would vote against any of this. The LOA's provided voluntary options for pilots and permanent improvements to our PWA.

The LOA names say it all:

LOA #20-03 – Voluntary Scheduling Options

LOA #20-04 – Furlough Avoidance


Do not confuse "a great pilot advocate" with someone that tells you what you want to hear. It's always popular to tell someone that they can get "more".

A responsible rep eventually has to decide not to let perfect be the enemy of good; collecting (in this case) permanent gains and protections for his pilots.

The question is, why did he vote no?

Will he be able to add value to the PWA going forward when faced with a similar situation (for example, a TA)?

Giordano Bruno 10-24-2022 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L (Post 3519047)


A responsible rep eventually has to decide not to let perfect be the enemy of good; collecting (in this case) permanent gains and protections for his pilots.
And that kind of pontificating is exactly how we got TA1. By wasting leverage, being crippled by risk aversion, and giving into the worst of all ALPA-isms: "we'll get 'em next time."

Were you here when we identified and defeated TA1? Michelle wasn't.

A captain rep candidate who wants to jump right in to these Section 6 negotiations, without the valuable lessons and insight gleaned from living through that abomination, is hard to fathom. For an FO rep, it would be understandable. It's great to have junior pilots volunteer for that role and bring their perspective. But for a captain rep? And a captain rep running a negative campaign, no less?
C54 pilots will decide.

tunes 10-24-2022 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L (Post 3519047)
To the lurkers:

Read the LOA language yourself and then ask yourself why a rep, particularly an FO rep, would vote against any of this. The LOA's provided voluntary options for pilots and permanent improvements to our PWA.

The LOA names say it all:

LOA #20-03 – Voluntary Scheduling Options

LOA #20-04 – Furlough Avoidance


Do not confuse "a great pilot advocate" with someone that tells you what you want to hear. It's always popular to tell someone that they can get "more".

A responsible rep eventually has to decide not to let perfect be the enemy of good; collecting (in this case) permanent gains and protections for his pilots.

The question is, why did he vote no?

Will he be able to add value to the PWA going forward when faced with a similar situation (for example, a TA)?
really doubling down, huh? Good luck with that.

BravoTo16L 10-24-2022 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 3518960)
So your first post was 2 days ago? Entrenched DALPA? It’s his first time on the horseshoe. My guess is you’re a friend of the person running and just throwing 💩 at a wall to see if it sticks. Did you see the results of round one? Wes won nearly 3 to 1. He’s definitely not a ‘do what he’s told’ kind of guy, I’ve seen him in action and there’s no one else I’d want to see representing te SEA pilots.
Yes it's his first time on the horseshoe. Both Captain candidates are relatively new to Delta. The FO reps even more so. I view the new perspective and energy as a good thing for the base and pilot group at large.

By entrenched I mean he has clearly been chosen by the DALPA machine.


Q: Why did Wes (as Vice Chair) send us the Strike Vote robo-call instead of the Chairman, as other LEC's did?

A: Somebody at DALPA decided that it would be good for his campaign and name recognition, so they put their finger on the scale.

TED74 10-24-2022 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L (Post 3519047)

The LOA names say it all:
I’ve got no dog in this fight, but anyone who judges the merits of a bill/proposal/mou/loa on its name - or encourages anyone else to - is playing an agenda.

CBreezy 10-24-2022 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BravoTo16L (Post 3519064)

By entrenched I mean he has clearly been chosen by the DALPA machine.
.
You know that's not how any of this works, right?


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