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11-17-2022, 09:16 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Our union asked us not to partake in trial balloons and hamstring the NC, yet here we are.
Yet trip7 and the usual suspects keep throwing candy out of their windowless van, and a handful of kids jump in.
Close the thread and delete the responses to this stuff.
Trip7. Do better. You can’t say “a contract will pass” based off pay rates and a couple improvements. It’s a comprehensive rewrite. The whole thing needs to be evaluated and assessed. Quit posting dumb sh**.
11-17-2022, 09:17 AM
#84
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Posts: 304
Here's a fun math exercise for everyone.
Current 73N A is ~ $285
Assume a 39 year old Pilot with 26 years to go.
5% compounded year over year will have you retire at $1,013 / hr
4% compounded year over year will have you retire at $790 / hr
3% compounded year over year will have you retire at $614 / hr
Every percentage gain we can get now will pay enormously in your future years.
Do Not Settle
Current 73N A is ~ $285
Assume a 39 year old Pilot with 26 years to go.
5% compounded year over year will have you retire at $1,013 / hr
4% compounded year over year will have you retire at $790 / hr
3% compounded year over year will have you retire at $614 / hr
Every percentage gain we can get now will pay enormously in your future years.
Do Not Settle
11-17-2022, 09:24 AM
#85
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Originally Posted by PapaMike
Here's a fun math exercise for everyone.
Current 73N A is ~ $285
Assume a 39 year old Pilot with 26 years to go.
5% compounded year over year will have you retire at $1,013 / hr
4% compounded year over year will have you retire at $790 / hr
3% compounded year over year will have you retire at $614 / hr
Every percentage gain we can get now will pay enormously in your future years.
Do Not Settle
Current 73N A is ~ $285
Assume a 39 year old Pilot with 26 years to go.
5% compounded year over year will have you retire at $1,013 / hr
4% compounded year over year will have you retire at $790 / hr
3% compounded year over year will have you retire at $614 / hr
Every percentage gain we can get now will pay enormously in your future years.
Do Not Settle
11-17-2022, 09:29 AM
#86
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Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 304
Originally Posted by notEnuf
Try that same exercise with 2004 rates and inflation. 737 in January 2004 was $256.53. https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
The specific numbers themselves aren't important and don't tell of the bigger picture of the economic landscape during that 26 years.
The point is just to show how much a simple percentage point can factor over the course of a contract and more importantly, the course of one's career.
11-17-2022, 10:07 AM
#88
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
I say this in every thread that this comes up.
Yet trip7 and the usual suspects keep throwing candy out of their windowless van, and a handful of kids jump in.
Close the thread and delete the responses to this stuff.
Trip7. Do better. You can’t say “a contract will pass” based off pay rates and a couple improvements. It’s a comprehensive rewrite. The whole thing needs to be evaluated and assessed. Quit posting dumb sh**.
Yet trip7 and the usual suspects keep throwing candy out of their windowless van, and a handful of kids jump in.
Close the thread and delete the responses to this stuff.
Trip7. Do better. You can’t say “a contract will pass” based off pay rates and a couple improvements. It’s a comprehensive rewrite. The whole thing needs to be evaluated and assessed. Quit posting dumb sh**.
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11-17-2022, 10:09 AM
#89
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Originally Posted by PapaMike
Way to miss the point.
The specific numbers themselves aren't important and don't tell of the bigger picture of the economic landscape during that 26 years.
The point is just to show how much a simple percentage point can factor over the course of a contract and more importantly, the course of one's career.
The specific numbers themselves aren't important and don't tell of the bigger picture of the economic landscape during that 26 years.
The point is just to show how much a simple percentage point can factor over the course of a contract and more importantly, the course of one's career.
11-17-2022, 10:14 AM
#90
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Originally Posted by Trip7
The contract does not need a comprehensive rewrite. Most of the sections are already done. Vacation has increased. Basically down to pay and QOL. I hope the focus is on eliminating the impact of inflation plus a real raise and the rest on QOL without concessions.
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