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Old 11-23-2022, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123 View Post
SLc 330 doesn’t appear it would be a very big base regardless. I would think very close to LAX350 in size
Yes in SLC base meeting he said right now it looks that it will be around 50 captains/95 or 100 FO’s and growth from there will be limited based on networking. You have to account for west coast 330 route growth though as well considering LAX is getting a few more back and PDX. Will probably be shared by SEA/SLC crews I imagine. When they asked about 330 LAX they essentially said it’s not even in consideration for a base at the time. So I assume that will also help support some staffing numbers in both 330 west coast bases.
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Yes in SLC base meeting he said right now it looks that it will be around 50 captains/95 or 100 FO’s and growth from there will be limited based on networking. You have to account for west coast 330 route growth though as well considering LAX is getting a few more back and PDX. Will probably be shared by SEA/SLC crews I imagine. When they asked about 330 LAX they essentially said it’s not even in consideration for a base at the time. So I assume that will also help support some staffing numbers in both 330 west coast bases.
.... so we are expecting LAX 330. From a layover standpoint, it's cheaper to fly SLC inside out and have local crews in LAX. The extra cost of having CA employees over UT employees could win the financial argument though.
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:31 AM
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.... so we are expecting LAX 330. From a layover standpoint, it's cheaper to fly SLC inside out and have local crews in LAX. The extra cost of having CA employees over UT employees could win the financial argument though.
Only problem I think for the 330 in LAX is with the 350 growth if some of those routes swap out of the 330 and into the 350 vs SLC will never have a 350 route more than likely. Other than that, yeah whatever is most logical is probably the least likely thing to happen.
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Is there any chance SLC could be a 350 base instead of a 330? I ask this since we're getting a lot of 350's down the road and they need some place to put them. Delta may or may not have the ideal destinations for the 350 airframe and only so many are needed for the ultra-long haul. Could they put them in SLC? Is the performance of the 350 better than the 330 out of a high altitude field like that? Would it help eliminate the need for payload optimization or other limiting factors the 330 might have and free up the 330's for other markets in ATL or NYC or SEA? Honestly just asking the question to see if anyone has any answers on whether the 350 might be a better fit for the routes from SLC to LHR/AMS/CDG vs the 330.
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Old 11-23-2022, 09:24 AM
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Is there any chance SLC could be a 350 base instead of a 330? I ask this since we're getting a lot of 350's down the road and they need some place to put them. Delta may or may not have the ideal destinations for the 350 airframe and only so many are needed for the ultra-long haul. Could they put them in SLC? Is the performance of the 350 better than the 330 out of a high altitude field like that? Would it help eliminate the need for payload optimization or other limiting factors the 330 might have and free up the 330's for other markets in ATL or NYC or SEA? Honestly just asking the question to see if anyone has any answers on whether the 350 might be a better fit for the routes from SLC to LHR/AMS/CDG vs the 330.
J Esposito and other network dudes have said SLC-ICN will happen at some point. And it was noted on the 350, not 330.
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Old 11-23-2022, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
I wouldn’t say consistent.

At the NYF town hall, BS was asked about new categories and his answer was (paraphrasing) “the next 3 bases are SEA320, BOS320, then SLC330”
SEA320 has been open since SEPT, offered on the May AE.
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J Esposito and other network dudes have said SLC-ICN will happen at some point. And it was noted on the 350, not 330.
True, but… BS from Crew Resources has said it’s not economical to have a pilot base on an airframe unless there are consistently 3 daily departures. They could simply DH crews in from LA indefinitely, or perhaps in a “W” pattern trip LAX-ICN-SLC-ICN-LAX.

I wouldn’t bet on a SLC 350 base.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
True, but… BS from Crew Resources has said it’s not economical to have a pilot base on an airframe unless there are consistently 3 daily departures. They could simply DH crews in from LA indefinitely, or perhaps in a “W” pattern trip LAX-ICN-SLC-ICN-LAX.

I wouldn’t bet on a SLC 350 base.

What fangs said.

There simply isn’t enough “feed” into SLC to justify a 350 base. Not when you have LAX close by.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
True, but… BS from Crew Resources has said it’s not economical to have a pilot base on an airframe unless there are consistently 3 daily departures. They could simply DH crews in from LA indefinitely, or perhaps in a “W” pattern trip LAX-ICN-SLC-ICN-LAX.

I wouldn’t bet on a SLC 350 base.
I'm sure the 350 could do fine on the SLC-Europe stuff (339 & 350 similar capacity). It'd do better in the summer. But I don't see them opening a SLC 350 base if a 330 base already exists, which it looks like that's the plan.
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SEA320 has been open since SEPT, offered on the May AE.
Im aware that SEA320 is already open.

The original message from BS was SEA, then BOS, then SLC.

Now it’s being said SLC before BOS.
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