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Old 12-02-2022 | 12:12 PM
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I’m a no if we don’t get January 8th off for Elvis’ birthday.
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
"Lackey"..you are hilarious.

You can find lots of posts here with me calling out the company.

I just like pointing out when people make outrages comparisons. When have we (mainline) ever pattern bargained off the regionals. We might as well be comparing Volkswagens to Watermellons.

Does DL compare it financials to Cape Air? I mean they both fly airplanes and both have pilot payrolls.
Exclusions are always the norm until we are the singularity and there is no comparison or market or peers. *cough* FedEx UPS *cough* The regional increases are a sign, maybe not percentage but dollar for dollar gets us 25%. Affordability is not the issue we will learn this on Dec. 14.
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
My point, despite my error of pilot payroll actually being the entire employee payroll, is that comparing the raise of a pilot group that is roughly 10% the size of the DL Mainline pilot group isn't exactly and apples to apples comparison.

Whoa pardner.... put the the "friendly fire" arrows back in thine quiver. Thought my smiley face and "malarkey" would be indicative of my agreement of your point. I still think you are on to something after the corrected num's.

BTW....I suspected you would get some fratricide....looks like some are more interested in name calling than addressing real issues. Take cover,
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
Yea, God didn’t need to sink it cause the Captain’s own disregard for not taking the Ice Berg report seriously and steering a little further south Did the job unfortunately.
And he was wearing his hat when they hit the ‘berg, just sayin……
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Well, I guess my point is.... when you(one) think's an 88% raise on top of ALL the other QOL life improvements that are more important than money(so I've been told).....somewhere the question needs to be answered....is it even close to a possibility?

Yes accuracy is important, but somewhere the rubber meets the road and reasonableness has to be addressed. JMHO

BTW....my point was an amalgamation of several posters, I Just happened to grab yours. Not a slap at you personally but even your more accurate numbers seem a bridge too far for an 88% raise Again, just 1 opinion.
I’ll agree an 88% raise DOS is a bridge too far, my point was simply to correct the numbers. We absolutely need to keep up with inflation but there is a huge difference between that and the % the regionals got.

DWC is an insightful poster, and as he said just transposed the numbers from total payroll, but I wanted to catch the mistake before we started arguing about our 12B/ year cost.
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I’ll agree an 88% raise DOS is a bridge too far, my point was simply to correct the numbers. We absolutely need to keep up with inflation but there is a huge difference between that and the % the regionals got.

DWC is an insightful poster, and as he said just transposed the numbers from total payroll, but I wanted to catch the mistake before we started arguing about our 12B/ year cost.
Gotcha...and agree. Accept my apology if offense was taken...none was meant.
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Gotcha...and agree. Accept my apology if offense was taken...none was meant.
all good, no offense taken.

on a separate note, we have about :35 mins til 5pm Mecca time, think we will hear anything from ALPA by then?
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Whoa pardner.... put the the "friendly fire" arrows back in thine quiver. Thought my smiley face and "malarkey" would be indicative of my agreement of your point. I still think you are on to something after the corrected num's.

BTW....I suspected you would get some fratricide....looks like some are more interested in name calling than addressing real issues. Take cover,
It's all good Buck...I saw your smiley and knew what you were saying but forgot to add one of my own...no friendly fire intended!

The arrows make me think of the Monty Python scene: "Message for you Sir!"
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:33 PM
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B is Cing in 20. What up ATL?
Old 12-02-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
B is Cing in 20. What up ATL?
This association is weak! Terrible communication taken from the 1980's.

Why isn't the MEC on SM everyday with information on the meeting (nothing specific). Who is there for the company? Tone of the meeting.

Quick updates on what the MEC is doing. Be held accountable to all of us paying due members?

Using SM leverage to make a case for the 15000 pilots. Over 8000 have been hired in the last 8 years. All capable of accessing all SM platforms.

The podcast are great but they tend to be 2 to 3 weeks behind.

Why not a Q&A live from the hotel?

Maybe I'm way off but they can do better then sending an email once a week.
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