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Old 12-02-2022 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ApachePhil
I couldn't GAS what is painted on the side of the plane, or who prints/deposits the paycheck. The planes are full, demand is on the rise, and these planes will fly regardless of the operator...and if you haven't heard, there is a pilot shortage in which they aren't going to just dismiss 15k pilots. Outside of government channels, deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first. I've not seen anyone so afraid of their job/status/seniority number in my life.
I'm not afraid. I'm trying to bring everyone back from fantasyland. We aren't striking for a year. Literally impossible. If it were possible, we wouldn't have jobs to come back to. There are all facts.
Old 12-02-2022 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
We have an AIP. Details to follow.
On section 1, yup we heard. Sill waiting...
Old 12-02-2022 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ApachePhil
I couldn't GAS what is painted on the side of the plane, or who prints/deposits the paycheck. The planes are full, demand is on the rise, and these planes will fly regardless of the operator...and if you haven't heard, there is a pilot shortage in which they aren't going to just dismiss 15k pilots. Outside of government channels, deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first. I've not seen anyone so afraid of their job/status/seniority number in my life.
They’re not wrong, it was a hyperbolic statement taken out of context.

there is a lot of fear-mongering in that statement though, so you’re right. Why anyone puts any stock into this or other message boards for real news is inexplicable. Once there’s something to talk about for real it’ll be hard to sift through what is undoubtedly going to be a smorgasbord of intentions.

wait…be patient…CB and others can’t help themselves pushing agendas
Old 12-02-2022 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
On section 1, yup we heard. Sill waiting...
Funny but true lol

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Old 12-02-2022 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ApachePhil
I couldn't GAS what is painted on the side of the plane, or who prints/deposits the paycheck. The planes are full, demand is on the rise, and these planes will fly regardless of the operator...and if you haven't heard, there is a pilot shortage in which they aren't going to just dismiss 15k pilots. Outside of government channels, deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first. I've not seen anyone so afraid of their job/status/seniority number in my life.

" deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first."....that would be after they walk off with their golden parachute...maybe I should say bail out with their golden parachute.

Other than throwing barbs....can you explain to me how Delta could withstand a 1 year long strike?
If you could include servicing debt, gate space, lease payments, rental overhead, and ALL commitment on contracts....and, and, and...in the #'s it would be helpful

Yes, Delta would declare bankruptcy and yes, it would be a reorg and yes, people would keep their jobs, and yes 99.9% of the pilots could withstand a 1 year pay hiatus, and yes, it may take 10 years to recoup their pay scales(maybe even immediately)

CBreezy said simply said Delta can not withstand a 1 year strike.

Are you saying you disagree with that, and if so why?
Old 12-02-2022 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bait
Can we at least go back to the SWA and AA rumors…I like theirs better!
What are those? I'd like to know SWAs.
Old 12-02-2022 | 02:04 PM
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What are those. Id like to know SWAs.
We were hoping you’d tell us!
Old 12-02-2022 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not afraid. I'm trying to bring everyone back from fantasyland. We aren't striking for a year. Literally impossible. If it were possible, we wouldn't have jobs to come back to. There are all facts.
Right, the company knows we can outlast them. We can last months, they can't. A strike would result in us getting anything and everything we want in 1 day. They would offer us Endeavor X2 bonuses in the final hour not to strike.
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
" deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first."....that would be after they walk off with their golden parachute...maybe I should say bail out with their golden parachute.

Other than throwing barbs....can you explain to me how Delta could withstand a 1 year long strike?
If you could include servicing debt, gate space, lease payments, rental overhead, and ALL commitment on contracts....and, and, and...in the #'s it would be helpful

Yes, Delta would declare bankruptcy and yes, it would be a reorg and yes, people would keep their jobs, and yes 99.9% of the pilots could withstand a 1 year pay hiatus, and yes, it may take 10 years to recoup their pay scales(maybe even immediately)

CBreezy said simply said Delta can not withstand a 1 year strike.

Are you saying you disagree with that, and if so why?
Gotcha. I agree that DELTA could never withstand a 1 year strike. But, those ship numbers would be flying well before a year lapsed...and they would need pilots...and 90% of us would be the pilots flying them. Ed and the gang would be ejected and I suspect operationally oriented people would be back at the helm in the C-Suites. Save few Fortune 500 companies, most restructure far more frequently than the Air Lines. The script is usually all the same...a company starts with passion and founder led leadership and they pass it on to those that love the mission, until eventually bean counters are all that is left on mahogany row....rinse...repeat.

If a strike lasted an entire year, Ed and the gang would have failed to "escape" with their fortunes. Ed would burn the furniture to pay a attorneys to assemble their parachutes inside of 60 days. Ed and the gang care less about the paint on the side of the plane and who prints the paystub than you or I do. But, in the end, we'd still be flying the same ship numbers on many of the same routes. This either happens sooner or this happens later, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
" deep strikes tend to clear the executive suites first."....that would be after they walk off with their golden parachute...maybe I should say bail out with their golden parachute.

Other than throwing barbs....can you explain to me how Delta could withstand a 1 year long strike?
If you could include servicing debt, gate space, lease payments, rental overhead, and ALL commitment on contracts....and, and, and...in the #'s it would be helpful

Yes, Delta would declare bankruptcy and yes, it would be a reorg and yes, people would keep their jobs, and yes 99.9% of the pilots could withstand a 1 year pay hiatus, and yes, it may take 10 years to recoup their pay scales(maybe even immediately)

CBreezy said simply said Delta can not withstand a 1 year strike.

Are you saying you disagree with that, and if so why?
holy smokes, I hope he actually doesn’t think a 1-yr strike is possible/plausible/undeniable. This post of yours is accomplishing nothing because there can’t be anyone who thinks a year-long strike exists on this planet while coming back to same company.

what a waste of time to even reply. But whatever. Being patient and standing by real news.
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