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Geronimo11P 12-17-2022 07:25 PM

Delta ATP CTP
 
So I know Delta offers an atp ctp course out of Atlanta for around $5000 which is about $1000 more than most other places. But I致e heard a rumor now from a couple different places that many of the people taking the course are getting immediate interviews and most of those applicants are getting hired. Just wondering if anyone here can confirm or deny these rumors. If so, will Delta then give you an ATP checkride during training?

I知 probably going to be paying for my own atp ctp pretty soon and was trying to figure out if it would be worth it to go do it through Delta. There are many other options within driving distance of me and they all cost less so it would definitely be more convenient not to use Delta, but if people are getting job opportunities right out of the course then I tend to think it would be worth the extra grand and an airline ticket. It definitely all sounds a little too good to be true though so hopefully someone here can shed some light on the subject.

TIA

ps2sunvalley 12-17-2022 10:49 PM

I attended Delta ATP-CTP earlier this year. Yes it is more expensive than other options. Yes they will give you an internal rec when you complete your application. Going to them for CTP gives them a kind of first look at you. And yes right now Delta is the only legacy that will hire you without the practical complete, they only require written complete to apply. The sim instructors were wondering why most of us waste money doing the practical when they give you your type ride after hiring. Idk about the timeframe of the calls as I am still 2 years from my availability.

The program skews heavily military as well so the folks going usually have extensive flight time in complex planes. My class was 100% mil. The course content from the FAA is designed for someone who has not flown anything more than a piston. It was a very easy course for someone who has 2,500 hrs in multi-turbines. Not sure of your background, but that is my experience.

Flyfast16 12-18-2022 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Geronimo11P (Post 3554411)
So I know Delta offers an atp ctp course out of Atlanta for around $5000 which is about $1000 more than most other places. But I致e heard a rumor now from a couple different places that many of the people taking the course are getting immediate interviews and most of those applicants are getting hired. Just wondering if anyone here can confirm or deny these rumors. If so, will Delta then give you an ATP checkride during training?

I知 probably going to be paying for my own atp ctp pretty soon and was trying to figure out if it would be worth it to go do it through Delta. There are many other options within driving distance of me and they all cost less so it would definitely be more convenient not to use Delta, but if people are getting job opportunities right out of the course then I tend to think it would be worth the extra grand and an airline ticket. It definitely all sounds a little too good to be true though so hopefully someone here can shed some light on the subject.

TIA

They do give a recommendation but it doesn稚 guarantee you an interview, CJO, or expedite your resume/process against others. It was a great course I really enjoyed it and the instructors are retired Delta and speak to what they know (Delta) rather than generalisms. If you池e looking to just check the box I think you could go anywhere but if looking for a peek at Delta IMO it痴 a good opportunity that exists I would say try it out.

Whoopsmybad 12-19-2022 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 3554471)
I attended Delta ATP-CTP earlier this year. Yes it is more expensive than other options. Yes they will give you an internal rec when you complete your application. Going to them for CTP gives them a kind of first look at you. And yes right now Delta is the only legacy that will hire you without the practical complete, they only require written complete to apply. The sim instructors were wondering why most of us waste money doing the practical when they give you your type ride after hiring. Idk about the timeframe of the calls as I am still 2 years from my availability.

The program skews heavily military as well so the folks going usually have extensive flight time in complex planes. My class was 100% mil. The course content from the FAA is designed for someone who has not flown anything more than a piston. It was a very easy course for someone who has 2,500 hrs in multi-turbines. Not sure of your background, but that is my experience.

FWIW, most of the people doing an ATP-CTP course on their own are military. Regional pilots have to do it there, and the regional pays for it. Very few non-mil pilots have to do it on their own.

Peace85 12-19-2022 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 3554471)
I attended Delta ATP-CTP earlier this year. Yes it is more expensive than other options. Yes they will give you an internal rec when you complete your application. Going to them for CTP gives them a kind of first look at you. And yes right now Delta is the only legacy that will hire you without the practical complete, they only require written complete to apply. The sim instructors were wondering why most of us waste money doing the practical when they give you your type ride after hiring. Idk about the timeframe of the calls as I am still 2 years from my availability.

The program skews heavily military as well so the folks going usually have extensive flight time in complex planes. My class was 100% mil. The course content from the FAA is designed for someone who has not flown anything more than a piston. It was a very easy course for someone who has 2,500 hrs in multi-turbines. Not sure of your background, but that is my experience.

Do you have FAA CPL before? I have ICAO JAR FCL and no faa licence number before but complete atp-ctp with written exam. Is it possible to apply with it? Thanks

Geronimo11P 12-19-2022 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 3554471)
I attended Delta ATP-CTP earlier this year. Yes it is more expensive than other options. Yes they will give you an internal rec when you complete your application. Going to them for CTP gives them a kind of first look at you. And yes right now Delta is the only legacy that will hire you without the practical complete, they only require written complete to apply. The sim instructors were wondering why most of us waste money doing the practical when they give you your type ride after hiring. Idk about the timeframe of the calls as I am still 2 years from my availability.

The program skews heavily military as well so the folks going usually have extensive flight time in complex planes. My class was 100% mil. The course content from the FAA is designed for someone who has not flown anything more than a piston. It was a very easy course for someone who has 2,500 hrs in multi-turbines. Not sure of your background, but that is my experience.

Thanks for the detailed response, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

I知 currently flying part 135 in Citations with 1350 TT and 350 turbine, and my experience in pistons is fairly diverse as well. I should be hitting atp mins with 500 turbine in March. I知 trying to avoid the regionals which is why I知 looking at paying for the course myself. My plan was to do the course locally and try to get on with FlexJet for a few years, but it definitely sounds like it could be worth it to go through Delta if it leads to a job with them sooner. I definitely like the company a lot, especially since my stepdad flies for them. I just have to decide if I知 willing to sign on with them knowing I値l be commuting for 30 years when United has a domicile in my home city.

Der Meister 12-19-2022 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Geronimo11P (Post 3555621)
Thanks for the detailed response, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

I知 currently flying part 135 in Citations with 1350 TT and 350 turbine, and my experience in pistons is fairly diverse as well. I should be hitting atp mins with 500 turbine in March. I知 trying to avoid the regionals which is why I知 looking at paying for the course myself. My plan was to do the course locally and try to get on with FlexJet for a few years, but it definitely sounds like it could be worth it to go through Delta if it leads to a job with them sooner. I definitely like the company a lot, especially since my stepdad flies for them. I just have to decide if I知 willing to sign on with them knowing I値l be commuting for 30 years when United has a domicile in my home city.

Personally I'd look into the ULCC's if you want to skip the RJ world. They will also do your ATP and you'll have a much faster way to DAL or UAL

Geronimo11P 12-20-2022 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3555636)
Personally I'd look into the ULCC's if you want to skip the RJ world. They will also do your ATP and you'll have a much faster way to DAL or UAL

I知 considering them as well. But, I really like 135 flying and I know I知 going to spend most of my career in 121, so if I don稚 do it early in my career then I値l never get another chance.

ps2sunvalley 12-20-2022 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3555121)
FWIW, most of the people doing an ATP-CTP course on their own are military. Regional pilots have to do it there, and the regional pays for it. Very few non-mil pilots have to do it on their own.

I know, but I have heard of a select few civ peeps paying for it out of their own pocket for various other reasons.

Originally Posted by Peace85 (Post 3555136)
Do you have FAA CPL before? I have ICAO JAR FCL and no faa licence number before but complete atp-ctp with written exam. Is it possible to apply with it? Thanks

sorry, no clue on this. I've had FAA CPL for a while.

Originally Posted by Geronimo11P (Post 3555621)
Thanks for the detailed response, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

I知 currently flying part 135 in Citations with 1350 TT and 350 turbine, and my experience in pistons is fairly diverse as well. I should be hitting atp mins with 500 turbine in March. I知 trying to avoid the regionals which is why I知 looking at paying for the course myself. My plan was to do the course locally and try to get on with FlexJet for a few years, but it definitely sounds like it could be worth it to go through Delta if it leads to a job with them sooner. I definitely like the company a lot, especially since my stepdad flies for them. I just have to decide if I知 willing to sign on with them knowing I値l be commuting for 30 years when United has a domicile in my home city.

I mean since the Delta course is not exorbitantly more expensive than other options you may as well do it, and if Delta hires you put that application in for UA as soon as the ink is dry on your ATP and see what happens. UA might scoop you up fairly quick and you can make the decision then.

j12770 01-25-2023 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Geronimo11P (Post 3555621)
Thanks for the detailed response, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

I知 currently flying part 135 in Citations with 1350 TT and 350 turbine, and my experience in pistons is fairly diverse as well. I should be hitting atp mins with 500 turbine in March. I知 trying to avoid the regionals which is why I知 looking at paying for the course myself. My plan was to do the course locally and try to get on with FlexJet for a few years, but it definitely sounds like it could be worth it to go through Delta if it leads to a job with them sooner. I definitely like the company a lot, especially since my stepdad flies for them. I just have to decide if I知 willing to sign on with them knowing I値l be commuting for 30 years when United has a domicile in my home city.


Hey I知 in the exact same boat as you. I used to work at Delta in Flight ops during and after college. My dad just retired from 34 years with Delta. I知 at a 135 with 400+ multi turbine. No atp yet, but look at ULCC.

Going to the March 6th event for Pilot recruiting at the GO and lunch with my old boss (PLAD director). I知 trying to get on with Delta as soon as possible. I have some solid connections from working there and living in Atlanta.

Anyone have any advice on when I should put in an application? Also, looking at paying for my own ATP-CTP course


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