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Laspilot4 01-10-2023 04:19 AM

Term Life recommendation
 
I’m looking to get a term life policy outside of Delta’s offered options. What companies have you been happy with? Thanks in advance.

Fly Casual 01-10-2023 04:33 AM

If you have a military background, Navy Mutual has some good coverage that may be at a lower price than VGLI and Delta's, depending on your age, etc. Caveat that I haven't died yet, so I don't know how good it actually is. https://www.navymutual.org/

buckleyboy 01-10-2023 04:36 AM

I haven’t died yet either, but I have been happy with NY Life.
A good relationship with the agent began that relationship, though.

bugman61 01-10-2023 05:46 AM

We updated our coverage with some laddering policies a few years ago through policy genius. They were fast, responsive, and found us a good value.

nene 01-10-2023 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Fly Casual (Post 3568073)
If you have a military background, Navy Mutual has some good coverage that may be at a lower price than VGLI and Delta's, depending on your age, etc. Caveat that I haven't died yet, so I don't know how good it actually is. https://www.navymutual.org/

Second this, if you are prior military at all, you cannot beat the Navy Mutual offerings (at least 10yrs ago when I scoured the marketplace and compared), and not only that, they seem to be there to help a widow after a passing with the paperwork required to keep the VA and DOD in the loop.

Wolf424 01-10-2023 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3568113)
Second this, if you are prior military at all, you cannot beat the Navy Mutual offerings (at least 10yrs ago when I scoured the marketplace and compared), and not only that, they seem to be there to help a widow after a passing with the paperwork required to keep the VA and DOD in the loop.

I actually got a 20 year term through USAA that was cheaper than Navy Mutual (by a very small amount)

Shop around for sure.

Planetrain 01-10-2023 08:21 AM

It’s been years ago, but we got a 20-year policy for me and my wife through ALPA’s product. At the time they were the best prices I could find. They sent a nurse to our house for a 5-min medical evaluation (waist measure, weigh-in, etc) and blood draw at no cost. The evaluation unlocked the cheapest prices and was a non-event.

tennisguru 01-10-2023 09:00 AM

Get an insurance broker who is not linked in to a single company. They can shop your specific situation among numerous companies to find the best deal.

BeamMeUp 01-10-2023 09:01 AM

https://www.harveywatt.com/airlinesu...fe-insurance//

nene 01-10-2023 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Wolf424 (Post 3568155)
I actually got a 20 year term through USAA that was cheaper than Navy Mutual (by a very small amount)

Shop around for sure.

Check with USAA on exclusions for "aircrew" which was the main reason I avoided or any policy.

Wolf424 01-10-2023 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3568308)
Check with USAA on exclusions for "aircrew" which was the main reason I avoided or any policy.

It was an issue if you were active duty. Not so much after you get out. Not an issue when discussing with them (even if you stay in Guard/Reserve)

DRaab 01-10-2023 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Laspilot4 (Post 3568067)
I’m looking to get a term life policy outside of Delta’s offered options. What companies have you been happy with? Thanks in advance.

AAFMAA was a better deal than SGLI/VGLI when I was shopping.

marcal 01-10-2023 01:59 PM

ALPA offers a lot of term as well as disability options that are very reasonably priced and easy to get. Depending on the amount of coverage they may or may not send a nurse to your house for a quick simple physical.

TiredSoul 01-10-2023 02:03 PM

I went through Zander and got a $700k 20 year for $1450/year.
I had everything included as I fly ACMI, the not-so-friendly countries and Hazmat/Dangerous goods and flight instruction and flying little planes.

O R C A 01-10-2023 02:16 PM

I used Zander to get price quotes for a baseline. Then I went searching direct to see if I could beat the price. It was a few years ago I ended up with Protective Life. I Haven’t tested their coverage yet. Hope my policy turns out to be a poor investment later if you get my drift.

cskafan123 01-10-2023 02:22 PM

What is Delta currently offering?

Abouttime2fish 01-10-2023 03:23 PM

Pull pin …. Release spoon…

Dont forget about whole life.

Toss grenade … run like h**l

Gspeed 01-10-2023 04:17 PM

I discovered Insuring Income via the White Coat Investor. They been a quick and easy resource to find cheap term rates.

https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/dia/d/insuringincome

Gunfighter 01-10-2023 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 3568575)
Pull pin …. Release spoon…

Dont forget about whole life.

Toss grenade … run like h**l

You only need to run if you throw like Max Duggan.

Buy term and invest the difference. There is a small argument to be made for a high cash value, participating whole life policy from a mutual company. Even so, the concept of Infinite Banking pioneered by Nelson Nash is better suited to those with net worth exceeding the IRS estate tax exemption limits. For peasants like airline pilots, doctors and engineers, a better solution is a brokerage account with low margin rates like Interactive Brokers. You accomplish the same thing, minus the estate tax exemption and have more control over how the "cash balance" is invested and grows.

SkiBum95 01-10-2023 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by DRaab (Post 3568392)
AAFMAA was a better deal than SGLI/VGLI when I was shopping.

Double down on AAFMAA. Way better than USAA, just got a 400k term policy through age 78. Around $150.

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-12-2023 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by cskafan123 (Post 3568530)
What is Delta currently offering?

2500 x highest paying 12yr Capt rate.

Current: 2500 x 353.85 = so $885K

If TA passes, new rate will be 417.54 x 2500 = $1.04M

StartngOvr 01-12-2023 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3570037)
If TA passes, new rate will be 417.54 x 2500 = $1.04M

......if the TA contains the same terms. Likely?

FreightDog140 01-13-2023 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3570037)
2500 x highest paying 12yr Capt rate.

Current: 2500 x 353.85 = so $885K

If TA passes, new rate will be 417.54 x 2500 = $1.04M


is this regardless of your time with the company or based on your current pay rate? I am a new hire starting in a couple of weeks.

windowseat 01-13-2023 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDog140 (Post 3570331)
is this regardless of your time with the company or based on your current pay rate? I am a new hire starting in a couple of weeks.

You are automatically covered at the highest pay rate x 2500 regardless of your longevity with the company/your current pay rate, unless you elect less coverage.

Subject to change with a new TA.

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-13-2023 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDog140 (Post 3570331)
is this regardless of your time with the company or based on your current pay rate? I am a new hire starting in a couple of weeks.


Originally Posted by windowseat (Post 3570339)
You are automatically covered at the highest pay rate x 2500 regardless of your longevity with the company/your current pay rate, unless you elect less coverage.

Subject to change with a new TA.

What window seat said.


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