20-something Year Old Widebody Capts
01-22-2023, 08:08 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
When my class was hired we heard the same narrative from the company about short upgrades, burn your resumes you will never need to send them out again. Then 9-11 happened. Being humble in this profession, and more importantly in life, will protect your soul if fate somehow changes your "plan for life". If we really think about all the variables in life needed to carry out our plan, it becomes evident how little control we all have of those variables. Be grateful and humble.
01-22-2023, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
Crazy how it takes less than 1 year for 7ER capt and over 20 for 330/350 capt. I wonder if it’s such a drastic difference like that at UA/AA.
Any chance the ER might come back to dtw?
Any chance the ER might come back to dtw?
no, the ER won’t be expanding into other bases. It will consolidate to 3 bases soon
01-22-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
When my class was hired we heard the same narrative from the company about short upgrades, burn your resumes you will never need to send them out again. Then 9-11 happened. Being humble in this profession, and more importantly in life, will protect your soul if fate somehow changes your "plan for life". If we really think about all the variables in life needed to carry out our plan, it becomes evident how little control we all have of those variables. Be grateful and humble.
It’s comical and sad how many pilots need to pick up a green slip to pay for an unforeseen car repair or for Christmas presents.
01-22-2023, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
Crazy how it takes less than 1 year for 7ER capt and over 20 for 330/350 capt. I wonder if it’s such a drastic difference like that at UA/AA.
Any chance the ER might come back to dtw?
Any chance the ER might come back to dtw?
The domestic flying is not bad compared to the narrowbodies: 1-3 legs/day, lots of transcons, and the occasional FL penalty lap.
It's a far cry from "super premium widebody," where you can't fail bidding trip-wise.
I can only speak for NYC. YMMV.
There will be no more ER bases, only fewer ER bases.
01-22-2023, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
And save your money/live below your means.
It’s comical and sad how many pilots need to pick up a green slip to pay for an unforeseen car repair or for Christmas presents.
It’s comical and sad how many pilots need to pick up a green slip to pay for an unforeseen car repair or for Christmas presents.
but that doesn’t give you the moral superiority
01-22-2023, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Foggles
I’ve flown with the (or one of the if there are multiple the same age) youngest and he’s extremely solid. One of the best I’ve flown with here and I mean that genuinely. Previously SKW and flew the 747 at Atlas prior to coming to DAL. Managed it all before he was 24. Incredible skill, drive and willingness to learn. Has the skill, attitude and experience to make it happen when he goes to training.
01-22-2023, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferLucas
If it’s who I’m thinking of, and he briefly flew at QX, then he’s definitely sharp. I flew with someone like that at QX that went to Atlas 747, and now upgrading on the ER…and I’d ride with him any day of the week.
01-22-2023, 09:17 AM
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Why do people keep acting like this is dangerous? These people will be flying ER’s to Florida and other short hauls out of Atlanta for years to come. We’ve been upgrading new captains at regionals for years now at minimum requirements which is a hell of a lot more difficult to shorter runways, longer days, and worse weather. But because of weight of 757/767 this is scary? It’s not like these people on ER are going to be doing much international, if any at all. More than likely if they snag one, the FO’s will be vastly more senior
01-22-2023, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Unless you're in the top 20% (30% in summer) in your category in NYC, you cannot touch Europe as part of your awarded line. You may get lucky with the swapboard if you're on it 10 times/day. And there's always reserve. So the majority of your flying will be MEX, BOG and domestic. Even Africa goes senior.
The domestic flying is not bad compared to the narrowbodies: 1-3 legs/day, lots of transcons, and the occasional FL penalty lap.
It's a far cry from "super premium widebody," where you can't fail bidding trip-wise.
I can only speak for NYC. YMMV.
There will be no more ER bases, only fewer ER bases.
The domestic flying is not bad compared to the narrowbodies: 1-3 legs/day, lots of transcons, and the occasional FL penalty lap.
It's a far cry from "super premium widebody," where you can't fail bidding trip-wise.
I can only speak for NYC. YMMV.
There will be no more ER bases, only fewer ER bases.
Was pay banding all the 767 variants to the top pay scale ever brought up/discussed with the negotiating committee?
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