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Old 01-22-2023, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice View Post
Awesome. Here we go again. Round and round. Older versus younger. Ridiculous, really. I agree with some of the others that this thread, like so many others, has completely derailed.
You don’t get it. If a 20 something can safely do what that crusty, fat 50 year old can do, then why pay that old fart more than the 25 year old?

And…magically at 65, your skills vaporize.
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:02 PM
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25 year old Captains of widebodies don't bother me. 25 year olds are flying aircraft carrying lethal weapons.

Now, when I meet a 63 year old Captain who says "Age 67 would help me pay off some bills" or tells me he is about to marry his FA girlfriend, soon to be his third marriage, THAT guy worries me
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hercretired View Post
25 year old Captains of widebodies don't bother me. 25 year olds are flying aircraft carrying lethal weapons.

Now, when I meet a 63 year old Captain who says "Age 67 would help me pay off some bills" or tells me he is about to marry his FA girlfriend, soon to be his third marriage, THAT guy worries me
Purely with regard to the job at hand, why would you care if the guy hasn’t managed his money as well as you would expect him to, or managed his personal relationships to your standards? In your mind, do these concerns somehow make him less safe as a pilot?

I’ve flown with guys like this who I consider to be awesome captains. They just suck at personal relationships and money, and I would never want their personal life for anything, but they’re good captains. They know their job and do it well.
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:44 PM
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Do you often get deep into financial planning conversations with your captains? I, personally, do not. Most are great dudes, some are great pilots… We usually limit conversation to more immediate things, even on a 6 hour transcon. Some expound upon their $13k green slip pickup, while most are quiet about it. Maybe I’m not delving deep enough?
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
You can’t even hold an ATP until 23, ever wondered why? I think you’re greatly exaggerating 24 year old RJ skippers with all this experience being as how old you have to be to even be an RJ skipper. Hopefully these guys/gals will be fine, most likely they will be fine. No way I was mature enough at that age but I had other priorities over flying. Don’t forget the human prefrontal cortex doesn’t fully develop until age 25. This part of the brain is important for planning, judgment and impulse control. Pretty important things to have when piloting a plane with 250 people on it thousands of miles from an airport over the Atlantic.
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastpilot View Post
NB A is definitely harder than WB A. The NATS are about easy as they come. WATRS is way more difficult. The guy doing 4 legs a day, deicing, holding, diverting, dodging storms in the summer, etc. is a whole lot harder than getting a selcal check at 30W. Not sure why people think the NATS is this complex impossible feat that only more experienced pilots will understand.

Because any monkey can fly over the Atlantic when everything works. When you have a problem and you have to implement contingency plans the knowledge you have is only theoretical because you just haven't seen much at this point in your career. Seat time discussing these contingencies with seasoned Captain's over many years and actually dealing with problems really helps you when you finally upgrade. Things are moving so fast at the majors I fear the the 20 something Captain's lack the experience and maturity of years past. Good luck and stay safe.
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Old 01-23-2023, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71 View Post
Remember those dudes in their 20’s who thought it would be cool to take an RJ up as high as it could go and suffered core lock and augered it in? That’s what he’s talking about when he refers to maturity.
I was a college dorm mate of the Captain. He wasn’t your typical cat in regards to risk/reward, God rest their souls.
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Old 01-23-2023, 01:43 AM
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Why do people keep acting like this is dangerous? These people will be flying ER’s to Florida and other short hauls out of Atlanta for years to come. We’ve been upgrading new captains at regionals for years now at minimum requirements which is a hell of a lot more difficult to shorter runways, longer days, and worse weather. But because of weight of 757/767 this is scary? It’s not like these people on ER are going to be doing much international, if any at all. More than likely if they snag one, the FO’s will be vastly more senior
Regionals fly in worse weather? How does that work?
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Old 01-23-2023, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed View Post
Regionals fly in worse weather? How does that work?
Smaller airports with worse surface treatment capability (Bubba and his 2-plow operation can only keep up with a certain amount of snow in rapidly-changing conditions...) and of course the obvious one.. worse-performing airplanes (and/or shorter legs) that force them to spend more time in the thick of storm cells they can't out-climb.
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Old 01-23-2023, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hopp View Post
Until you get a navigational degrade, or last minute track change.
... and diversions.... No doubt. This is Delta's problem. TBH, I couldn't care less.
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