Are these “bars” (you get it).

‘cause this isn’t happening at Outback, or Chilis or any other “restaurant”. (You get it).

Your intellect is truly dizzying. 😁

Had great meals at all three which seems to make them more than just bars.

🤦‍♂️

you have missed the point sir.

I thought they finally did away with the reduced alcohol content on draught beers a year or 2 ago. National beer conglomerates finally got fed up with brewing 2% alc content just for the Utah market and said enough, and got their way (or so I was told by the van driver) Only odd local ordinance I've encountered is "no doubles allowed" as in a double bourbon, or yer spirit of choice. Besides that, downtown has been such a good time, that I'm seriously considering moving there for all the positives mentioned.

It wasn’t just Utah there was about 4 or 5 states that had the same law. 3 of them removed this in one of the midterms which then led the beer companies to say they aren’t making 3.2 beer anymore, forcing the hand of all the states to go to normal content.

These posts are bizarre. I moved to SLC in 99 starting 8th grade. Not one of my friends asked if I was Mormon and I didn’t ask them. My best friend wasn’t Mormon but it didn’t matter to me. I was in team sports and only half were Mormon. I grew up in Cottonwood Heights and went to Brighton and Cottonwood HS. When I graduated I worked at The Mayan, see South Park, and our work around for the booze and appetizer law was free chips. Worked like a charm. The air quality is poor but it’s not as bad as California. If you like outdoor activities it can’t be beat. It’s been 20 years and it’s only gotten better. The booze is no longer 3.2 and you can beer and wine in the grocery store.

The mere fact that you depend on a workaround to get a drink at dinner is the point exactly. I know, I know, small potatoes, but FML that kind of crap just permeates life there.

When did you depart The Beehive State? The OP probably deserves to have some context as to how old your anti-Utah gouge is. Some of your critiques were probably somewhat accurate in the 80s or 90s. A lot has changed in the last couple decades - especially after the Winter Olympics, when Utah rolled out the welcome mat to the world. Demographics, population, attitudes and liquor laws have all changed quite a bit. Your point about the Boy Scouts, for instance, is now false. The LDS Church cut ties with the BSA about 5 years ago. If you sign your kid up for Scouts, I 100% guarantee they won’t be meeting in, or sponsored by, an LDS chapel.

Sorry you had a crappy experience living in Utah, but you seem to be offering the OP pretty outdated info, sprinkled with some tired old anti-Mormon tropes.

So you can’t stand being in Utah, even as a visitor, for 3 days?

Oh my heck.

Well, hopefully the OP, or anyone else, considers that when reading your advice on living there.

Unless they’re senior to me. Then I agree. It’s a terrible place. Go to Atlanta. 😂

A PSA for folks who drink while in Utah. Utah is the first and only state with a BAC limit of .05 for a DUI. So… go drive after two beers or one high powered IPA and you could get a DUI.