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Tinpusher007 03-11-2023 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3605750)
Someone on the employee/nonrev page said they were stuck on the jet a total of 26 hours JNB-CPT-SJU-ATL. Not a way to win over premium passengers.

This is absolutely ridiculous. JNB is or was rumored to be one of our most profitable routes. I cant see our best pax sticking with us over United on this route if we put them through something like that on a regular basis.

PilotBases 03-11-2023 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3605952)
Because it's still not certified. The max 9 is plan B.

It isn’t certified yet, correct, but it will be. It was granted the exemption it needed.

GeneralLee 03-11-2023 02:11 PM

More recent whispers that perhaps the underdog, BA, may be the recipient of a Delta WB order in the variety of 2 variants of the same plane.

Crimson 03-11-2023 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by GeneralLee (Post 3606215)
More recent whispers that perhaps the underdog, BA, may be the recipient of a Delta WB order in the variety of 2 variants of the same plane.

this would be very interesting after leadership stated in a town hall we’ll be an “all Airbus WB fleet”

GeneralLee 03-11-2023 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Crimson (Post 3606231)
this would be very interesting after leadership stated in a town hall we’ll be an “all Airbus WB fleet”

All boils down to the deal.. either way.

Once upon a time we were supposed to be an all Boeing airline. Things change.

Vsop 03-11-2023 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by GeneralLee (Post 3606215)
More recent whispers that perhaps the underdog, BA, may be the recipient of a Delta WB order in the variety of 2 variants of the same plane.

Very interesting. I assume that means 787 and not 777x. Whether it’s Boeing or Airbus more WB are always good. Maybe this will be the long awaited order that replaces the 767 with a plane that pays WB rates.

JamesBond 03-11-2023 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 3605955)
This is absolutely ridiculous. JNB is or was rumored to be one of our most profitable routes. I cant see our best pax sticking with us over United on this route if we put them through something like that on a regular basis.

Possibly. It's ultimately management's decision though. It's kind of funny that e'rrybody is so upset about it. The way I see it, if I have a JNB trip that diverts to SJU, I am gonna make mo' money.

I mean heck yeah I want management to make great decisions and have the right equipment for the right route. But after having heard Mr Anderson talk several times about the 777, it was not the airplane for DAL for anything other than JNB and SYD. IOW, I am not sure DAL can justify a small expensive fleet for two destinations. But that's up to them. I'll hit the pitches thrown over the plate and not worry about the count. Maybe the 787 is the answer as it is also a potential ER replacement. But Boeing is as ****ed up as a football bat, so I would bet they will have to make an amazing deal to get DAL on board with it.

jmho, ymmv

PilotBases 03-11-2023 04:43 PM

Nothing like a dorked up fleet of bits and pieces. 787 is a guarantee then!

Tinpusher007 03-11-2023 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3606265)
Possibly. It's ultimately management's decision though. It's kind of funny that e'rrybody is so upset about it. The way I see it, if I have a JNB trip that diverts to SJU, I am gonna make mo' money.

I mean heck yeah I want management to make great decisions and have the right equipment for the right route. But after having heard Mr Anderson talk several times about the 777, it was not the airplane for DAL for anything other than JNB and SYD. IOW, I am not sure DAL can justify a small expensive fleet for two destinations. But that's up to them. I'll hit the pitches thrown over the plate and not worry about the count. Maybe the 787 is the answer as it is also a potential ER replacement. But Boeing is as ****ed up as a football bat, so I would bet they will have to make an amazing deal to get DAL on board with it.

jmho, ymmv

I do realize that Im a pilot, not a network planner. But there is a direct correlation between our ability to properly and profitably service a route and the number of top paying wide body aircraft and associated positions required to staff them.

DisMyGamerTag 03-11-2023 10:17 PM

we sure have a lot of angst over a route that may not exist for long.


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