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higney85 03-18-2023 02:06 PM

I’d like to apologize for the first hijack, should have started a thread. Was planning on it with the next AE but took the opportunity yesterday based on the content.

blue vortex 03-18-2023 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 3609624)
I’d like to apologize for the first hijack, should have started a thread. Was planning on it with the next AE but took the opportunity yesterday based on the content.

I started this thread and I do not think that you hijacked it at all. It was well within the scope of the discussion. We have had threads that are so far off the topic it’s unbelievable. But not this one. I’d also like to thank everybody for their insights.

tennisguru 03-18-2023 03:11 PM

One downside to trying out WBB before going NBB-NBA same fleet is you lose the shot at the short upgrade.

iaflyer 03-18-2023 04:46 PM

Just for completeness for those considering WB - B position, here's info about the 330 bunks:

The bunk on the A330-300 is great. Cool, comfortable, plenty long (I'm 6' and was plenty comfortable). Also space to sit up and read, watch a movie on your device or whatever. Not a lot of area to change, but enough. Also, a double set of curtains kept light and noise out when the FAs go by to their area (it's right next to yours). They never woke me up. It's mid-airplane, under the floor. I always slept well down there.

On the -200, it's in the tail, and noisier because it's behind the wing (so you're getting engine noise and I think you're up against the skin of the plane). I used ear plugs on the -200, didn't have to on the -300. It's much tighter when you're getting ready, with little space to change or even put your shirt on. It has two bunks back there, in a row, one is higher than the other one, but they don't quite overlap. I didn't like those bunks as much, but I think they have the same mattress. Also, good luck getting to the cockpit after third break when the carts are out - plan an extra 5 minutes for that!

Just my opinions - I didn't fly the -900, it was all west coast when I was on the 300 and got bumped off before I saw it on the east coast.

20Fathoms 03-18-2023 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3609678)
Just for completeness for those considering WB - B position, here's info about the 330 bunks:

The bunk on the A330-300 is great. Cool, comfortable, plenty long (I'm 6' and was plenty comfortable). Also space to sit up and read, watch a movie on your device or whatever. Not a lot of area to change, but enough. Also, a double set of curtains kept light and noise out when the FAs go by to their area (it's right next to yours). They never woke me up. It's mid-airplane, under the floor. I always slept well down there.

On the -200, it's in the tail, and noisier because it's behind the wing (so you're getting engine noise and I think you're up against the skin of the plane). I used ear plugs on the -200, didn't have to on the -300. It's much tighter when you're getting ready, with little space to change or even put your shirt on. It has two bunks back there, in a row, one is higher than the other one, but they don't quite overlap. I didn't like those bunks as much, but I think they have the same mattress. Also, good luck getting to the cockpit after third break when the carts are out - plan an extra 5 minutes for that!

Just my opinions - I didn't fly the -900, it was all west coast when I was on the 300 and got bumped off before I saw it on the east coast.

You missed out! It’s far and away better than the 300 bunk. Heck if it were further forward it would even be better than the 777 bunk.

m3113n1a1 03-18-2023 08:45 PM

The fact that people are having to lug around their own air mattresses to nap on in flight is absolutely boggling my little narrowbody mind.

I'll stay on the 737 :D

CheapTrick 03-19-2023 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3609757)
The fact that people are having to lug around their own air mattresses to nap on in flight is absolutely boggling my little narrowbody mind.

I'll stay on the 737 :D

Seriously? When has a pilot been satisfied with anything? We always think we can improve it.

Express pilot 03-19-2023 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 3609331)
As someone who is debating going to this jet, can you explain? RJ guy for 10 years, then 717 for 5, little bus for 2….most sleep I can get is a commute or DH with an aisle seat and “best case” a window without a seat in front. 6’2 in height. I’ve done intl D1 on 763 and it did not work for height and side sleep. Curious on opinions of 330 vs 350 crew rest. Most folks I’m talking to seem to be shorter and no issue either way.


Now looking at WB and debating on 350 seniority vs 330 variety. The sleep part seems to be the discussion point in the guys I’m chatting with in the left seat who “camped” right. Evidently the sleep matters (obviously) so make this crayon simple for me please… No sleep makes WBB a problem and immediate exit to 320A, but I’m trying to give WBB a fair shake before plotting the next 3 decades.

Been on both categories. I like the 350. It’s the 777 old category. 4 man crew is better than 3 man. 330 has a lot of 6 day trips that don’t pay great for the time you’re gone. Different factors to put in. What base and seniority you will hold on the 330 vs 350. If you are already on the 320, the 330 you will like better. If you have been on Boeing longer you will like the 350 better. Just my opinion and time on these two fleets.

On bunks, 339 is nice, still like the 350 better because it’s right outside the cockpit vs walking halfway down the plane on the 330. 777 wins, but it’s gone. Go get on the 350.

CBreezy 03-19-2023 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 3609788)
Been on both categories. I like the 350. It’s the 777 old category. 4 man crew is better than 3 man. 330 has a lot of 6 day trips that don’t pay great for the time you’re gone. Different factors to put in. What base and seniority you will hold on the 330 vs 350. If you are already on the 320, the 330 you will like better. If you have been on Boeing longer you will like the 350 better. Just my opinion and time on these two fleets.

On bunks, 339 is nice, still like the 350 better because it’s right outside the cockpit vs walking halfway down the plane on the 330. 777 wins, but it’s gone. Go get on the 350.

What about 350 trips do you like? Is there a big difference in DTW vs ATL?

CheapTrick 03-19-2023 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3609802)
What about 350 trips do you like? Is there a big difference in DTW vs ATL?

I'll take a stab. He may like the 2 hour bus rides to downtown Seoul. Or perhaps the homeless/crime issues of Capetown? The marathon walk to the bus in Santiago? Runway changes for HND? Bouncing along the ITCZ for 1/2 the JNB flight? Political instability in Lima? OIS instability. Payload Optimization? System resets? Late operations? The Starship isn't quite the magic machine it was portrayed to be, but it is ok. The issues mentioned can be similarly found on other DAL operations. If I had known what I know now (including the same payrate) I would have gone to the A330 for a better choice of destination and no/little FRMS issues. But 330/350 beats domestic for schedule and not getting beat up by reroute.


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