DAL to start flight academy
#51
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Oh really they can work at any regional or ULCC?! I’m aware of the other options, but hey let’s just keep bending around the truth of the whole program, this is fun.
Let me know when you find a Delta Propel pilot working at Spirit or Envoy and I’ll take back everything I said.
Let me know when you find a Delta Propel pilot working at Spirit or Envoy and I’ll take back everything I said.
We can go around and around all day. You correctly state there are some things that aren't well known about the program. But, that's kind of the point. Maybe if more were known about it there wouldn't be any misinformation going around about it. That in turn could make it a stronger and more popular option. IMHO, it's a great program from what I've read and heard about and I wish anyone who considers pursuing it the best of luck. Everyone has to make their own path to which ever airline they end up with.
Last edited by TNDeltaFlyboy; 03-25-2023 at 09:43 AM.
#52
I was at ERAU in the early 90s and if you put in your time at Comair Aviation Academy as a CFI (18 months I think), you got to go to to Comair. Not exactly a flow, as I think there was an interview involved. I do seem to recall that CFIs and management there had travel benefits on Delta.
I knew a couple of dudes who worked there in the late 80s/early 90s. Not horrible, but defiantly a punch your ticket, get your time kinda place.
I think Delta was completely divested from it around 2010 or so.
#53
#54
The Endeavor flow is not an”easy” way to get to Delta , LOL. So you are telling me that spending 20 to 30 years flying Metros, Fokkers, Dash 8’s, Saabs, 4 engine Jet AVRO’s , RJ 200’s, 700’s and 900’s with 30,000 hours is an “easy” way to get to Delta? You been breathing in too much smoke from the peace pipe, LOL. Now I realize as time goes by that the pilots on the flow get more junior ,but they still spent their dues flying wholly owned metal , flying Delta passengers and being payed by Delta. There is no comparison from the flow to propel . I agree with the decree of Jason Ambrosi. Time will tell if that will ever happen but the last few years have certainly eroded the old regional model to near extinction.
#57
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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It has nothing to do with "martyrdom" anyway. Comair Academy never had anything to do with Comair ALPA, MEC, RJDC (which was half ASA initiated by the way), furloughs, bankruptcy, PBGC, Mergers, Grievances or anything else even remotely related.
The only relevant aspect of any of this is that prior myopic managements in search of personal paydays made so many overlapping multi million and multi billion dollar mistakes that we're lucky to have survived and came out the other side.
I'm not trying to invalidate your emotions, but you're simply jousting at windmills with this one. It never had anything whatsoever to do with what you are wanting to be so passionate about.
#59
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
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Figured I'd pop in and give a slight update on this. I've been accepted to this program and will start at Skyborne in the first class in June. The process was pretty simple for Skyborne. Fill out your application, do the AON assessments, and do an interview with somebody from Skyborne. Cost of the program is $92k (including housing) before the $20k assistance. What was interesting to me is that the person I interviewed with knew very little about the process to get into the Propel program. She said Delta has been playing it close to the vest about the program, even with them. Basically though, you have to get your PPL within a certain number of hours to be recommended by them to Delta. If Skyborne recommends you, then you'll apply for Propel. I'm not sure if you'll have to do the whole Propel application process or if it'll just be an interview or some combination. If you get into Propel after finishing the PPL, Skyborne just knocks the $20k off your cost to the program. There are also other requirements/milestones you have to meet from both Skyborne and Delta the rest of the way. The Skyborne requirements are related to maximum training time and checkride failures. I'm guessing the ones from Delta will be the same as in the other Propel pathways. The person I interviewed with also didn't know how the interest repayment from Delta would work. I'm sure a lot of this limited knowledge was based on how new the program was at the time. My interview was only about 3 weeks after the program was announced, and the folks at Skyborne have been slammed with questions and applications (heard over 1,000 in the first week). I'm sure a lot more will be known by the time I actually start at Skyborne. One good thing is if you don't get into Propel, you can still finish all your ratings at Skyborne. You just won't get the $20k assistance or CJO from Delta obviously. I had already been considering going to Skyborne before this program was even announced, so I'm comfortable with going there even if I don't ultimately get accepted into Propel. I'd encourage anyone else considering the program to be comfortable with that as well.
Anyways, just wanted to provide what little information I gathered while going through the application process in case there's other people on here considering going this route.
Anyways, just wanted to provide what little information I gathered while going through the application process in case there's other people on here considering going this route.
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