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PilotBases 05-02-2023 07:39 AM
Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3631636)
Are these for Jun rotations or the FRMT email we got yesterday. Would love to peek at Jun rotations if they’re out somewhere
FRMT email.

m3113n1a1 05-02-2023 09:56 AM
Originally Posted by Vmo plus 10 (Post 3631328)
Thanks very much, very encouraging info. No, I don't currently fly for Delta, but I am based at LAX and am flying the 320. Any thoughts on holding LA within the first 6 months or so? I've looked at class drops, but LA is not always on the list. One last question, is class seniority still based on age? Or is it a random selection process?
A few new hire classes have LAX 320 or 737 sprinkled in. If you can't hold LAX in your new hire class, bid 737, 320, or 7ER (what Delta calls the 75/76) in any other base and you'll be able to hold LAX on the next AE (what Delta calls a system bid). We typically have AEs every 2-3 months, but not always.

LAX is an awesome base--a very laid back vibe and a good mix of senior and junior pilots.

Class seniority is determined by the last four digits of your social security number. Highest is most senior. 9999 would be the best and 0000 the worst.

Whoopsmybad 05-02-2023 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3631726)
A few new hire classes have LAX 320 or 737 sprinkled in. If you can't hold LAX in your new hire class, bid 737, 320, or 7ER (what Delta calls the 75/76) in any other base and you'll be able to hold LAX on the next AE (what Delta calls a system bid). We typically have AEs every 2-3 months, but not always.

LAX is an awesome base--a very laid back vibe and a good mix of senior and junior pilots.

Class seniority is determined by the last four digits of your social security number. Highest is most senior. 9999 would be the best and 0000 the worst.
Full disclosure, it’s been 5 months since our last AE. I don’t know how much pent up movement is in those 1000 that got hired since then, but it has been recent that you could move base to pretty much anywhere on the next bid. So there could be 30 320 LAX spots but 30 people already on property that want 320 LAX (or more). Regardless bid it, because secondary vacancies and all.

Bucking Bar 05-02-2023 11:52 AM
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3631782)
Full disclosure, it’s been 5 months since our last AE. I don’t know how much pent up movement is in those 1000 that got hired since then, but it has been recent that you could move base to pretty much anywhere on the next bid. So there could be 30 320 LAX spots but 30 people already on property that want 320 LAX (or more). Regardless bid it, because secondary vacancies and all.
Next AE in second half of June. Captain bid (in the FO/CA tick tock cycle of filling then promoting). Sound like growth in NYC/LAX/ATL. Seems the company wants to use all these new gates.

FangsF15 05-02-2023 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3631782)
Full disclosure, it’s been 5 months since our last AE. I don’t know how much pent up movement is in those 1000 that got hired since then, but it has been recent that you could move base to pretty much anywhere on the next bid. So there could be 30 320 LAX spots but 30 people already on property that want 320 LAX (or more). Regardless bid it, because secondary vacancies and all.
For any new lurkers, this cannot be overstated. You will not get a category unless you have a bid in. There are ALWAYS extra positions filled than posted due to people bidding out, and getting backfilled.

“You miss 100% of the shots you do not take.”

Whoopsmybad 05-02-2023 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3631794)
For any new lurkers, this cannot be overstated. You will not get a category unless you have a bid in. There are ALWAYS extra positions filled than posted due to people bidding out, and getting backfilled.

“You miss 100% of the shots you do not take.”
To even expound a little more, if you are leaving a somewhat staffed category, and going to a very poorly staffed one, they can break your seat lock if they want.

Edit: unless something changed in this contract, I haven’t looked at any new bidding language yet.

TED74 05-02-2023 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by nene (Post 3631627)
The reason this is not addressed in the PWA is because it has been inconceivable for a vast period of major airline history.
Not sure I buy that “justification”. We’ve had a WB captain year 1 pay rate in every table I’ve ever seen.

PhilMcCrackin 05-02-2023 04:38 PM
Keep hearing that Mid June for the next AE. Would the earliest conversion date be after the summer ends? I can’t see them starting to send people to training until after the summer ends.

DWC CAP10 USAF 05-02-2023 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by PhilMcCrackin (Post 3631907)
Keep hearing that Mid June for the next AE. Would the earliest conversion date be after the summer ends? I can’t see them starting to send people to training until after the summer ends.
Early June was mentioned today at ATL base visit.

First conversion could be 2 Jul (first day of Jul bid period)


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