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Originally Posted by 24Whiskey
(Post 3636514)
Just one data point:
As an AUS commuter I have nearly 50 hrs of deviated deadhead credit in the past 3 months with about 40 in/out of AUS and the rest DFW and IAH. Looking at the June packet I should have more in my future too… |
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 3636175)
Please help me see the light.. I obviously don’t understand this math and decision making.
If there are .. say 20 jets RON in BOS or MCO or AUS there has got to be 40-45 (some international) pilots in the downtown hotel rooms at $300+ each. Every night/365.. Why in the world is it more expensive than opening a pilot base? Is it possible to have a base without a CPO? Without crew room, pilot lockers and commuter rooms? Parking lot cost, I guess? In all of our bases parking lots are in the least favorable locations, but could this cost really be more than crew hotels plus crew transportation? There are airlines with a lot more bases/total number of pilots ratios than DAL - how do they stay in business? |
Originally Posted by overqualified52
(Post 3636571)
wondering what the efficiency of keeping CVG as a base is for Delta ? Seems with DTW close by they would just push everything through there. Why not DFW or AUS?
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Originally Posted by 24Whiskey
(Post 3636514)
Just one data point:
As an AUS commuter I have nearly 50 hrs of deviated deadhead credit in the past 3 months with about 40 in/out of AUS and the rest DFW and IAH. Looking at the June packet I should have more in my future too… |
Originally Posted by overqualified52
(Post 3636571)
wondering what the efficiency of keeping CVG as a base is for Delta ? Seems with DTW close by they would just push everything through there. Why not DFW or AUS?
However at the time it was open, it had a similar sized 737 pilot group than other bases like SEA, SLC and LAX. It was justified simply because there was so much 737 flying out of there that proximity to other bases was irrelevant. Closing the pilot base didn't really change that balance of flying at all anyway. Pilot domiciles and strength of a fleet in a given city are somewhat correlated but aren't directly linked. JB has robust pilot bases in both JFK and BOS, and in both FLL and MCO. Proximity to other bases means nothing for pilot domiciles compared to the actual network. |
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 3636175)
Please help me see the light.. I obviously don’t understand this math and decision making.
If there are .. say 20 jets RON in BOS or MCO or AUS there has got to be 40-45 (some international) pilots in the downtown hotel rooms at $300+ each. Every night/365.. Why in the world is it more expensive than opening a pilot base? Is it possible to have a base without a CPO? Without crew room, pilot lockers and commuter rooms? Parking lot cost, I guess? In all of our bases parking lots are in the least favorable locations, but could this cost really be more than crew hotels plus crew transportation? There are airlines with a lot more bases/total number of pilots ratios than DAL - how do they stay in business?
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 3636175)
If there are .. say 20 jets RON in BOS or MCO or AUS there has got to be 40-45 (some international) pilots in the downtown hotel rooms at $300+ each. Every night/365.. |
In the end most of what is posted here is down in the noise as a factor in opening a base. It comes down to will the new base decrease credit hours over the course of an entire year. If opening a base reduces credit it’s likely to happen.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 3636216)
The company is not paying $300+ a night for those rooms - we have long term contracts with a set number of rooms, I'd say we're paying $150 or so a night for those room, perhaps cheaper. |
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3636771)
Given that they are negotiating hundreds of thousands, if not a few million room-nights per year, I'm betting $70-$80 per night might be realistic. But that's just a WAG.
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