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crazyjaydawg 05-23-2023 12:52 PM

New COO
 
Looks like they’re finally realizing there needs to be a leadership shake up?

I wonder how long JL sticks around in his neutered role.

TNDeltaFlyboy 05-23-2023 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3640553)
Looks like they’re finally realizing there needs to be a leadership shake up?

I wonder how long JL sticks around in his neutered role.

How is his role neutered? JL will report directly to this new COO. I think the new guy is just filling in for Gil West's departure?

SideSticker 05-23-2023 03:00 PM

COO with zero airline experience. What could go wrong? I hope he's a a fast learner, but he was a marine, so....

ancman 05-23-2023 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by SideSticker (Post 3640602)
COO with zero airline experience. What could go wrong?

He has amusement park experience. That’s relevant to the operation sometimes.

Whoopsmybad 05-23-2023 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3640604)
He has amusement park experience. That’s relevant to the operation sometimes.

Winning comment of the day.

Forgotmyhat 05-23-2023 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3640649)
Someone needs to explain that to POTUS

Allow me to posit this:

Say you need to form the board for your new airline. The best qualified people happen to be all the talking heads over on chit chat. They have a ton of airline experience, seasoned pilots, some advanced business degrees. All have extensive leadership experience and have commanded and made decisions for large groups.

Technically, they are the best qualified individuals for the job. However, wouldn’t you agree that there is some value to include people on your board who, while not technically the most qualified, bring an outside perspective that may prove useful to leading your new endeavor? Or would you be happy with stacking your team with only “best-qualified” chit chat people.

beis77 05-23-2023 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3640604)
He has amusement park experience. That’s relevant to the operation sometimes.

Parks experience… Brightstar Adventure Parks?

“You can’t make a Tomlette without breaking some Gregg’s” 😉

TegridyFarms 05-23-2023 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by beis77 (Post 3640755)
Parks experience… Brightstar Adventure Parks?

“You can’t make a Tomlette without breaking some Gregg’s” 😉

Great show. That’s probably the best character pair on that show.

beis77 05-23-2023 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by TegridyFarms (Post 3640770)
Great show. That’s probably the best character pair on that show.

100% agree. Some of their scenes are comedic gold

Meme In Command 05-24-2023 02:36 AM

I'm more worried about having a Field Artillery officer in an Aviation leadership position. Having ground pounders in charge of pilots never turned out good for us.

"Those guys can ONLY fly how much?"
"They get how many hours of rest?"

Hopefully he doesn't come in here like a brand new LT with new-idea-fairy energy and try to crank the optimizer from ludicrous speed to plaid

JustNarced 05-24-2023 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3640798)
I'm more worried about having a Field Artillery officer in an Aviation leadership position. Having ground pounders in charge of pilots never turned out good for us.

"Those guys can ONLY fly how much?"
"They get how many hours of rest?"

Hopefully he doesn't come in here like a brand new LT with new-idea-fairy energy and try to crank the optimizer from ludicrous speed to plaid

Without that Field Arty Officer, those pilots would have no idea how to run a POW camp or dig up land mines. Without that aviation experience, that Field Arty may have never learned how to read and write.


;)

Tropical 05-24-2023 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3640798)
I'm more worried about having a Field Artillery officer in an Aviation leadership position. Having ground pounders in charge of pilots never turned out good for us.

"Those guys can ONLY fly how much?"
"They get how many hours of rest?"

Hopefully he doesn't come in here like a brand new LT with new-idea-fairy energy and try to crank the optimizer from ludicrous speed to plaid

In other news, all pilots will be getting a new box of crayons with their crew meals!

Hotel Kilo 05-24-2023 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3640798)
I'm more worried about having a Field Artillery officer in an Aviation leadership position. Having ground pounders in charge of pilots never turned out good for us.

"Those guys can ONLY fly how much?"
"They get how many hours of rest?"

Hopefully he doesn't come in here like a brand new LT with new-idea-fairy energy and try to crank the optimizer from ludicrous speed to plaid

We had an astronaut running Eastern Airlines (before you were born) and we saw how that worked out.

I say give the man a chance and let's see how it goes.

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m3113n1a1 05-24-2023 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3640798)
I'm more worried about having a Field Artillery officer in an Aviation leadership position. Having ground pounders in charge of pilots never turned out good for us.

"Those guys can ONLY fly how much?"
"They get how many hours of rest?"

Hopefully he doesn't come in here like a brand new LT with new-idea-fairy energy and try to crank the optimizer from ludicrous speed to plaid

I wouldn't be too worried if the VP of Flight ops was a pilot or someone with more actual flight ops experience so they could push back on the COO...but we have JL, so basically a non pilot reporting to someone with zero airline experience. Doesn't sound like a great recipe to me, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Meme In Command 05-24-2023 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3640936)
We had an astronaut running Eastern Airlines (before you were born) and we saw how that worked out.

I say give the man a chance and let's see how it goes.

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You just had to throw that in there didn't you chief?

Iceberg 05-24-2023 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3640959)
You just had to throw that in there didn't you chief?

Any chance at a dig, whether it’s actually a dig or not. That’s how HK shows how smart they are, their superior intelligence really shines because they’re smart enough to attempt to put other people down. Also, they’re very proud of how old they are.

Gone Flying 05-24-2023 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3640936)
We had an astronaut running Eastern Airlines (before you were born) and we saw how that worked out.

I say give the man a chance and let's see how it goes.

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…I mean he (Frank Borman) was a former military officer with 0 commercial aviation experience put in charge of running an airline after success at an unrelated endeavor. Sounds more like our new guy than you probably meant it to.


I really hope our new COO does well, but it does seem to be a trend over the past several years to hire people with less and less airline operational experience in positions that really should have some.

hvydvr 05-24-2023 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3640604)
He has amusement park experience. That’s relevant to the operation sometimes.

Pretty much every station after 2230 is clowns on fire. Dude will be a natural.

Meme In Command 05-24-2023 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3641042)
Any chance at a dig, whether it’s actually a dig or not. That’s how HK shows how smart they are, their superior intelligence really shines because they’re smart enough to attempt to put other people down. Also, they’re very proud of how old they are.

I love how I always try to give him and you-know-who the benefit of the doubt by asking them to elaborate on their point, show evidence and expand on their argument. But no, it's always some not so clever one liner. They don't need to make a rational argument. "I am older than you, therefore I am smarter than you".

StoneQOLdCrazy 05-24-2023 12:29 PM

When was the last time a Bastian hire in flight ops panned out?
I guess John Laughter's job just got diluted. oh, well.
I'm sure the new guy's lessons learned from bottling soda pop will translate brilliantly to the challenges of running a global airline.

interceptorpilo 05-24-2023 01:24 PM

I think the real big news here is that this is a shot across the bow at Coca-Cola. Can’t believe they hired a Pepsi guy to work in the Delta/Coke Mecca.

DeltaboundRedux 05-24-2023 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3641063)
When was the last time a Bastian hire in flight ops panned out?
I guess John Laughter's job just got diluted. oh, well.
I'm sure the new guy's lessons learned from bottling soda pop will translate brilliantly to the challenges of running a global airline.

Surprised no one has commented on how he was a Pepsi guy for 25 years and is now in a famously Coke town. [edit: intercept beat me to it]

Coke is so much more popular than Pepsi there’s a recurring internet theory that Pepsi created it’s restaurant division in the 70’s & 80’s (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC and others) because it was the only way they could get their less popular fizz sugar water to be sold at all.

Since all our fortunes are tied together, I wish him well.

JetPilotDaddy 05-24-2023 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3641097)
I think the real big news here is that this is a shot across the bow at Coca-Cola. Can’t believe they hired a Pepsi guy to work in the Delta/Coke Mecca.

Their way of getting Coke to renegotiate and I'm hopeful to finally get Dew Zero up front in tiny paper cups with a leaking lid

Turbo1 05-24-2023 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3641099)
Surprised no one has commented on how he was a Pepsi guy for 25 years and is now in a famously Coke town. [edit: intercept beat me to it]

Coke is so much more popular than Pepsi there’s a recurring internet theory that Pepsi created it’s restaurant division in the 70’s & 80’s (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC and others) because it was the only way they could get their less popular fizz sugar water to be sold at all.

Since all our fortunes are tied together, I wish him well.

Coke is poison **** water........pizz water

DeltaboundRedux 05-24-2023 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 3641106)
Coke is poison **** water........pizz water

100%

Diabetes in a can, just like every sugar soda/pop and half the drinks served at Starbucks.

exPhrogMarine 05-24-2023 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tropical (Post 3640842)
In other news, all pilots will be getting a new box of crayons with their crew meals!

********** 'Rah!!

badflaps 05-24-2023 01:42 PM

During the early successful years some of the board was Coke guys. (Interlocking Directorites) Maybe they are on to something.

Gspeed 05-24-2023 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3641097)
I think the real big news here is that this is a shot across the bow at Coca-Cola. Can’t believe they hired a Pepsi guy to work in the Delta/Coke Mecca.


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3641099)
Surprised no one has commented on how he was a Pepsi guy for 25 years and is now in a famously Coke town. [edit: intercept beat me to it]

Coke is so much more popular than Pepsi there’s a recurring internet theory that Pepsi created it’s restaurant division in the 70’s & 80’s (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC and others) because it was the only way they could get their less popular fizz sugar water to be sold at all.

Since all our fortunes are tied together, I wish him well.

I hope he wasn’t one of those dirty Pepsi execs that refused to give the 90’s kid his Harrier jet when he outsmarted them.

Planetrain 05-25-2023 01:20 PM

Bastian used to work at Pepsi.

New COO’s first job, Marine Artillery: send stuff down range, on time, on target.

Last job: give people a ride and have them leave with a smile on their face.

I don’t folks, boxes are being checked!

overqualified52 05-25-2023 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3640553)
Looks like they’re finally realizing there needs to be a leadership shake up?

I wonder how long JL sticks around in his neutered role.

They should bring in Tony Robbins or JG wentworth 👽


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