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beernutt 10-21-2023 11:30 AM

PCS drop request question
 
This is going to sound like a dumb question but I’ve been told there are no dumb questions. When I’m trying to drop a trip through PCS as a personal drop why is it not showing up in open time (as a Q trip or at all?)

Thanks

Scoop 10-21-2023 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3713276)
This is going to sound like a dumb question but I’ve been told there are no dumb questions. When I’m trying to drop a trip through PCS as a personal drop why is it not showing up in open time (as a Q trip or at all?)

Thanks


I think, not 100%, that it won't show as a "Q" until a drop has been denied. If this is not correct perhaps someone will correct it. I know what you are thinking, people are so reluctant to tell other people they are wrong on the internet, but hopefully, if it is wrong, some magnanimous soul will dig down and find the strength to point out an error in a fellow Pilot. :D Or in any case provide a better answer.

Scoop

beernutt 10-21-2023 11:59 AM

Thanks for the reply and that makes sense, but the request has been in since before the first PCS run and has been processed since the deny reason is, unsurprisingly, capped reserve days.

I put all my trips in November in one request as a personal drop and none of them show up as a Q or anything else.

Stumped.

Abouttime2fish 10-21-2023 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3713296)
Thanks for the reply and that makes sense, but the request has been in since before the first PCS run and has been processed since the deny reason is, unsurprisingly, capped reserve days.

I put all my trips in November in one request as a personal drop and none of them show up as a Q or anything else.

Stumped.

Try putting each trip in separately in each priority spot?? And you are talking PD page, not as a drop on the pilot to pilot swap board correct? (Though you should put there as well if you want to unload them)

MrMustache 10-21-2023 01:21 PM

Are you selecting “Actual and Qualified” when you click on open time?

Rooster435 10-21-2023 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3713296)
Thanks for the reply and that makes sense, but the request has been in since before the first PCS run and has been processed since the deny reason is, unsurprisingly, capped reserve days.

I put all my trips in November in one request as a personal drop and none of them show up as a Q or anything else.

Stumped.

Did you put them all on the same line? If so, it’s an all nothing. So, it won’t go thru unless they all can be dropped. Same reason it’s not showing up as. Qualified drop. Put them all in seperatly

beernutt 10-21-2023 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3713340)
Did you put them all on the same line? If so, it’s an all nothing. So, it won’t go thru unless they all can be dropped. Same reason it’s not showing up as. Qualified drop. Put them all in seperatly

Oh snap. That’s probably exactly what happened. They were all on the same grid. It’s weird that they won’t even show up as Q available after not being awarded though.

Live and learn. Thanks.

Johnnychimpo 10-21-2023 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3713360)
Oh snap. That’s probably exactly what happened. They were all on the same grid. It’s weird that they won’t even show up as Q available after not being awarded though.

Live and learn. Thanks.

check iCrew vs MiCrew, also. I know when they are made into Q trips via PB day request they don’t show in micrew but do show in icrew.

ancman 10-21-2023 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3713360)
Oh snap. That’s probably exactly what happened. They were all on the same grid. It’s weird that they won’t even show up as Q available after not being awarded though.

Live and learn. Thanks.

The main reason for that is that another pilot isn’t guaranteed to be able to pick up just one of your trips if they are all on the same line on the PD drop form.

If I see just one of your trips that I want to pick up and submit a white slip for it, and all of your drops are on the same line, then my pickup will be denied if ANY of your other trips can’t be dropped due to staffing. Having them all on the same line tells PCS that you either want to drop all of your trips, or none of them at all.

For a rotation to be posted as a Q trip it must be available individually.

beernutt 10-21-2023 05:07 PM

All the above makes sense. I've never tried to PD more than one trip in a month so I wasn't aware of the limitations or options for posting more than one, and the pitfall of all or nothing.

Thanks again to everyone that replied!

Jughead135 10-23-2023 05:36 AM

Two additional considerations on top of the existing discussion:

- A PD within 48 hour of report does not become a Q trip (the PD will work if the numbers somehow become positive within that timeframe [up until the 0700 run the day prior], but as a straight drop into OT)

- The limitations of PCS only allow for up to 8 different inputs—which means you can only fully cover up to 3 trips in a single drop request. Even more annoying, it will treat any one drop as “request satisfied,” and delete all the rest of your PD requests, so you have to go back in before the next PCS run to re-input your drop request (for whatever trip(s) didn’t drop). The joys of 1980 technology….


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