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captkdobbs 02-22-2024 06:21 AM

"P" on the trip coverage report?
 
Has it always been there? What does it mean?

I just noticed that there is a column to the left of the pairing-number column labeled "P".

For the entire month of February, there're only two trips tagged with the P: both Pacific, 1-GS, 1-RES. Lot's of similar trips and coverage situations not marked with the P. ??

DWC CAP10 USAF 02-22-2024 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 3772175)
Has it always been there? What does it mean?

I just noticed that there is a column to the left of the pairing-number column labeled "P".

For the entire month of February, there're only two trips tagged with the P: both Pacific, 1-GS, 1-RES. Lot's of similar trips and coverage situations not marked with the P. ??

From the DTC page, click the "F5 = Help" key and it will bring up a decoder ring to tell you what everhting means.

"P paid - if marked 'p' this indicates a non-theatre-qualified-pilot has already been paid for this trip."

immolated 02-22-2024 09:10 AM

While we're on this topic, what does "A#1" mean? The help screen says "Assignment", but that's the least helpful description possible. They're all assignments.

hockeypilot44 02-22-2024 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 3772257)
While we're on this topic, what does "A#1" mean? The help screen says "Assignment", but that's the least helpful description possible. They're all assignments.

Involuntary assignment aka GS with no trigger that doesn’t count against GS.

FangsF15 02-22-2024 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 3772257)
While we're on this topic, what does "A#1" mean? The help screen says "Assignment", but that's the least helpful description possible. They're all assignments.

"Inverse Assignment" is a specific step in 23.N and 23.O trip coverage (and part of the much maligned 23.M.7 problems). It's an assignment from open time in inverse seniority order, typically when they are out of other options (or time), and they just start handing out trips to the most junior pilot in a category. It is premium pay, and outside of the Green Slip counter/leveling mechanisms.

*Edit* Hockey types faster.

DWC CAP10 USAF 02-22-2024 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 3772257)
While we're on this topic, what does "A#1" mean? The help screen says "Assignment", but that's the least helpful description possible. They're all assignments.

Hockey and Fangs ansser the "A#1" below.

Both Assignments and Awards show on the DTC.

"Assignments" is when scheduling assigns you a rotation on LC, of assigns you short call....things you aren't volunteering for.

But things like GS and YS and WS are "awards"....things you asked for.

immolated 02-22-2024 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3772260)
Involuntary assignment aka GS with no trigger that doesn’t count against GS.


things you aren't volunteering for.
Are they actually involuntary though? It's my understanding IA are profferrs, and like any ARCOS you can accept or decline it.

nene 02-22-2024 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 3772312)
Are they actually involuntary though? It's my understanding IA are profferrs, and like any ARCOS you can accept or decline it.

"Technically" IA's are required, but the PWA spells out viable reasons that you may be unable to fulfill your assignment, like alcohol, unreported sickness, childcare issues, etc. so in reality they are treated almost as proffers becasue what good is it for skeds to go fishing for a pilot only to be told 10mins later, not able and start over.

FangsF15 02-22-2024 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by immolated (Post 3772312)
Are they actually involuntary though? It's my understanding IA are profferrs, and like any ARCOS you can accept or decline it.

Officially, No, they are absolutely not proffers. However, before the ARCOS Batch-size-swap-for-no-more-IA-outside-8-hours agreement, the company would sometimes treat them as proffers.

hockeypilot44 02-22-2024 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3772327)
Officially, No, they are absolutely not proffers. However, before the ARCOS Batch-size-swap-for-no-more-IA-outside-8-hours agreement, the company would sometimes treat them as proffers.

They haven’t actually done IA’s that aren’t proffers in years. In reality, they skip everything in contract, have computer cold call everyone, and first one to get back to scheduling gets it. This lead to pilots calling scheduling before even the GS process played out and asked for the trip. It’s not supposed to happen like this and we gave up unlimited batch sizes to eliminate it.


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