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170Till5 01-23-2025 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3874289)
I never said I was sophisticated and yes, I liked the gyoza at the spiral. I've had others too. The texture was a real treat. Just the right amount of crisp on the fry without loosing the rest to over steam cooked. And the price was right. My brother in law is Korean, he liked it too. Sorry for the enjoyment. I'll do better to find distain in the usual haunts. Is it OK to still eat cheese from the bakery across from Notre Dame? They only serve 4 fresh cut varieties not like the snooty shops on Rue Cler. Oh, and the price...is...right.

it’s ok, Nant is also too good for Duke’s in Waikiki

CX500T 01-23-2025 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3874071)
flown 75/73. I would drop all those in a heartbeat for the comfy 320 flight deck. Unfortunately they do the preponderance of red eyes out of lax. Sucks

If I could make the perfect plane:
767 Power Seats
320 Stick/Tray
757 Thrust Levers/Auto Throttles (not a fan of the 320s manual thrust when you need it)
321N Displays Radar
73N TOGA Button (just push forward and hit button, not tell other guy to hit EPR)
757 Rudder Pedals/Foot Well.. 320 pedals are narrower between the outside ridges than my shoes are wide. Size 17EE problems.
767 room in the cockpit.
767 Jumpseats
320 Bleed Air System
320 "just put switch to RUN and watch it" starting system.

Pegasus FMS maybe with multi color.

I hate the MCDU on the 320. It's just klunky as hell, even after years of similar boxes (PL21)

757-300 Digital Mode Control Panel.. NO BOUNCING DIGITS!

PilotBases 01-23-2025 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3874344)
If I could make the perfect plane:
767 Power Seats
320 Stick/Tray
757 Thrust Levers/Auto Throttles (not a fan of the 320s manual thrust when you need it)
321N Displays Radar
73N TOGA Button (just push forward and hit button, not tell other guy to hit EPR)
757 Rudder Pedals/Foot Well.. 320 pedals are narrower between the outside ridges than my shoes are wide. Size 17EE problems.
767 room in the cockpit.
767 Jumpseats
320 Bleed Air System
320 "just put switch to RUN and watch it" starting system.

Pegasus FMS maybe with multi color.

I hate the MCDU on the 320. It's just klunky as hell, even after years of similar boxes (PL21)

757-300 Digital Mode Control Panel.. NO BOUNCING DIGITS!

737 FMS and VNAV. Never had an issue with the VNAV on it, the guys who would get worried about it over speeding were the ones letting it fly cruise cost index on the way down.
320 Overhead panel
Neo footwarmers

Khantahr 01-23-2025 05:23 PM

220 start/run switches, they're better than the 320's
220 checklists
220 screens and map

Flyler 01-23-2025 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3874344)
If I could make the perfect plane:
767 Power Seats
320 Stick/Tray
757 Thrust Levers/Auto Throttles (not a fan of the 320s manual thrust when you need it)
321N Displays Radar
73N TOGA Button (just push forward and hit button, not tell other guy to hit EPR)
757 Rudder Pedals/Foot Well.. 320 pedals are narrower between the outside ridges than my shoes are wide. Size 17EE problems.
767 room in the cockpit.
767 Jumpseats
320 Bleed Air System
320 "just put switch to RUN and watch it" starting system.

Pegasus FMS maybe with multi color.

I hate the MCDU on the 320. It's just klunky as hell, even after years of similar boxes (PL21)

757-300 Digital Mode Control Panel.. NO BOUNCING DIGITS!

Throw in the vertical profile view from the E170's and im sold.

Ill hijack the thread real quick, im also looking at the possibility of potentially taking NYC ER or DTW bus. I live in ORD, which seat would be easier to commute to? I saw ssomeone mentioned that reserve on the ER may not be as desirable. Can someone elaborate on how commuting to reserve would be different from the ER to one of the narrowbody fleets?

20Fathoms 01-23-2025 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3874344)
If I could make the perfect plane:
767 Power Seats
320 Stick/Tray
757 Thrust Levers/Auto Throttles (not a fan of the 320s manual thrust when you need it)
321N Displays Radar
73N TOGA Button (just push forward and hit button, not tell other guy to hit EPR)
757 Rudder Pedals/Foot Well.. 320 pedals are narrower between the outside ridges than my shoes are wide. Size 17EE problems.
767 room in the cockpit.
767 Jumpseats
320 Bleed Air System
320 "just put switch to RUN and watch it" starting system.

Pegasus FMS maybe with multi color.

I hate the MCDU on the 320. It's just klunky as hell, even after years of similar boxes (PL21)

757-300 Digital Mode Control Panel.. NO BOUNCING DIGITS!

So basically the 777 with a side stick?:D



501D22G 01-23-2025 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3874346)
737 FMS and VNAV. Never had an issue with the VNAV on it, the guys who would get worried about it over speeding were the ones letting it fly cruise cost index on the way down.

737 FMS can't figure out the path to save its life, and that's after you force it to start down early & give it a fighting chance...

Give me a 200k box and bouncing digits any day.

Did I miss it or did no one mention the VSD?

AlikesitR 01-23-2025 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Flyler (Post 3874356)
Throw in the vertical profile view from the E170's and im sold.

Ill hijack the thread real quick, im also looking at the possibility of potentially taking NYC ER or DTW bus. I live in ORD, which seat would be easier to commute to? I saw ssomeone mentioned that reserve on the ER may not be as desirable. Can someone elaborate on how commuting to reserve would be different from the ER to one of the narrowbody fleets?

Commuting to ER reserve in NYC is pretty tough. I’m back on reserve after holding a line all summer and it’s bad enough to the point of my bidding off the plane. Granted, I live in a base, so commuting was a choice. The everyone gets short call has made the reserve commute pretty bad. We have a lot of 2359 and 05:30 SC periods daily. Many SC periods are uncommutable on one end or another. But. At the same time, the flying is awesome and the plane is great. So far this month on reserve I’ve gotten some great places. But at the same time, I dropped a day of reserve so I could back into filling up and avoid 4 days of SC.

If seniority progression is important to you, the ER probably isn’t the plane for you. I’m perma 83-85% in base for the last 7 months after a pretty good boost when I first got here. The reality is, the fleet is shrinking and the 76 retirements are happening. There won’t be a steady stream of people in behind you. If you don’t mind commuting to SC and want to go cool places for a bit, then this is the plane for you. I don’t regret at all having come to this fleet for a bit. A great start to my career here.

CX500T 01-23-2025 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Flyler (Post 3874356)
Throw in the vertical profile view from the E170's and im sold.

Ill hijack the thread real quick, im also looking at the possibility of potentially taking NYC ER or DTW bus. I live in ORD, which seat would be easier to commute to? I saw ssomeone mentioned that reserve on the ER may not be as desirable. Can someone elaborate on how commuting to reserve would be different from the ER to one of the narrowbody fleets?

Ok. Delta commuting rules in a nutshell. 2 policies. One FOM, one PWA.

FOM 2 flights, second DL ticketed, reasonable time between two. (So not a 0900 American and 0920 Endeavor in different terminal). Call crew scheduling after not getting on primary, they can, at their discretion positive space you on the backup, or release without pay but also no discipline.

PWA 2 flights, 2 hours apart, any Airline. Shields you from discipline only.

They are similar but a couple differences. Know what you are invoking.

My take, depending on where in Chicago you live, DTW is driveable in a pinch. Factor that in if you have a "witching hour " where getting from your house, missing primary flight and then backup makes it hard to report in time. We have 18 hour call out, can be as short as 10 on day 1 if its on your schedule by noon day before but any pre 1800 report day one requires no backup flight.

7ER in NYC, 95% of your flying will be JFK. Occasionally DHs or charters out of EWR and LGA. EWR stuff goes senior as us denizens of the dirty Jerz don't like going to NYC when EWR is so much easier.

But, as long as you have tine commuting into LGA is ok. Sometimes crew scheduling will ***** about your backup not being to same airport. But as long as you can realistically make report at the right airport with normal ground transport times they are supposed to.

ORD-DTW shows 12 flights tomorrow 6 on mainline Delta so you could book the jumpseat.

ORD-JFK has 7, 4 on Delta Ticketed RJs. No bookable JS
ORD-LGA has 32. 3 mainline DL, 5 DL ticketed RJs
ORD-EWR has 17, 0 DL ticketed.

If you want to get a taste of the 75/76 and some international, the ER in NY isnt an impossible commute but not cake.

DTW is only 1 airport to cover, possibly driveable.

I commuted from Norfolk VA to NYC for years. I was 360 miles house to crashpad. Not a drive I wanted to make a lot, but when we went to one flight a day in the winter post holiday slowdown I did drive a lot.

The 320 isn't bad. If you're an older when hired guy it might be better to take the ER if you want to do some Europe while you can.

RES RULES are ssme save for min days in a row. Its 4 on the ER, 3 on NB fleets. Short call numbers and abuse thereof lately is the same everywhere.



OOfff 01-23-2025 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3874394)
Ok. Delta commuting rules in a nutshell. 2 policies. One FOM, one PWA.

FOM 2 flights, second DL ticketed, reasonable time between two. (So not a 0900 American and 0920 Endeavor in different terminal). Call crew scheduling after not getting on primary, they can, at their discretion positive space you on the backup, or release without pay but also no discipline.

PWA 2 flights, 2 hours apart, any Airline. Shields you from discipline only.

They are similar but a couple differences. Know what you are invoking.

My take, depending on where in Chicago you live, DTW is driveable in a pinch. Factor that in if you have a "witching hour " where getting from your house, missing primary flight and then backup makes it hard to report in time. We have 18 hour call out, can be as short as 10 on day 1 if its on your schedule by noon day before but any pre 1800 report day one requires no backup flight.

7ER in NYC, 95% of your flying will be JFK. Occasionally DHs or charters out of EWR and LGA. EWR stuff goes senior as us denizens of the dirty Jerz don't like going to NYC when EWR is so much easier.

But, as long as you have tine commuting into LGA is ok. Sometimes crew scheduling will ***** about your backup not being to same airport. But as long as you can realistically make report at the right airport with normal ground transport times they are supposed to.

ORD-DTW shows 12 flights tomorrow 6 on mainline Delta so you could book the jumpseat.

ORD-JFK has 7, 4 on Delta Ticketed RJs. No bookable JS
ORD-LGA has 32. 3 mainline DL, 5 DL ticketed RJs
ORD-EWR has 17, 0 DL ticketed.

If you want to get a taste of the 75/76 and some international, the ER in NY isnt an impossible commute but not cake.

DTW is only 1 airport to cover, possibly driveable.

I commuted from Norfolk VA to NYC for years. I was 360 miles house to crashpad. Not a drive I wanted to make a lot, but when we went to one flight a day in the winter post holiday slowdown I did drive a lot.

The 320 isn't bad. If you're an older when hired guy it might be better to take the ER if you want to do some Europe while you can.

RES RULES are ssme save for min days in a row. Its 4 on the ER, 3 on NB fleets. Short call numbers and abuse thereof lately is the same everywhere.

for what it’s worth, the fom policy says they “will create a positive space reservation,” not that they may do so at their discretion.

their discretion is only mentioned in the contingency section where the backup flight won’t make it in time.


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