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marcal 03-25-2025 07:51 AM

The 1% risk of it all falling apart is significantly worse than the 99% chance it all works out fine. Either go with him on days off, or wait until hes older and can fend for himself if it all falls apart.

rickair7777 03-25-2025 08:51 AM

I've actually done that before.

Nonrev outbound (wife would have driven to the airport to pick my kid up if she didn't get on or I got re-assigned).

I bought her a ticket home on my return flight. If something happened to that flight I would have tried to get her on another airline solo. Conveniently, the OAL flights in question went to large towns where we happened to have family.

Fairly low risk, it was out and back with long layover and not much else they could assign me to after departing base. But I was prepared to call the company and tell them they either needed to get my kid on my flight or I would have to stay until I could get her out. Having bought a revenue ticket would have hopefully mitigated the pain of that conversation.

Kid in queston is mature for her age, and had previously done solo domestic nonrev from a young age (obviously with family/friends waiting to collect her at the destination).

Verdell 03-25-2025 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3896975)
I've actually done that before.

Nonrev outbound (wife would have driven to the airport to pick my kid up if she didn't get on or I got re-assigned).

I bought her a ticket home on my return flight. If something happened to that flight I would have tried to get her on another airline solo. Conveniently, the OAL flights in question went to large towns where we happened to have family.

Fairly low risk, it was out and back with long layover and not much else they could assign me to after departing base. But I was prepared to call the company and tell them they either needed to get my kid on my flight or I would have to stay until I could get her out. Having bought a revenue ticket would have hopefully mitigated the pain of that conversation.

Kid in queston is mature for her age, and had previously done solo domestic nonrev from a young age (obviously with family/friends waiting to collect her at the destination).

Still feels 1 reroute away from a colossal mess, as unlikely as that might be. Murphy's Law and all that. Glad it worked out!

Uninteresting 03-25-2025 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3896975)
I've actually done that before.

Nonrev outbound (wife would have driven to the airport to pick my kid up if she didn't get on or I got re-assigned).

I bought her a ticket home on my return flight. If something happened to that flight I would have tried to get her on another airline solo. Conveniently, the OAL flights in question went to large towns where we happened to have family.

Fairly low risk, it was out and back with long layover and not much else they could assign me to after departing base. But I was prepared to call the company and tell them they either needed to get my kid on my flight or I would have to stay until I could get her out. Having bought a revenue ticket would have hopefully mitigated the pain of that conversation.

Kid in queston is mature for her age, and had previously done solo domestic nonrev from a young age (obviously with family/friends waiting to collect her at the destination).

cool story, but flying internationally (the original post) is completely different than flying from Seattle to Cleveland.

IceFlash 03-27-2025 10:28 AM

I took my 13 year old daughter on an AUA trip last year. I bought her FCFL roundtrip tickets on the flights I worked, and she was listed as an unaccompanied minor. It worked out perfectly, but in hindsight I wouldn't do it again. We dont know anyone in Aruba or New York, so this could have gone poorly fast.

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-27-2025 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by IceFlash (Post 3897792)
I took my 13 year old daughter on an AUA trip last year. I bought her FCFL roundtrip tickets on the flights I worked, and she was listed as an unaccompanied minor. It worked out perfectly, but in hindsight I wouldn't do it again. We dont know anyone in Aruba or New York, so this could have gone poorly fast.

who did you list as the adult picking her up in AUA because I’m 99.99% sure company rules say a working crew member can not be the receiving adult at the destination.

Rooster435 03-27-2025 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3897826)
who did you list as the adult picking her up in AUA because I’m 99.99% sure company rules say a working crew member can not be the receiving adult at the destination.

Dont know if it’s against the rules but Ive done it before. My neice was on a flight that I operated and when we landed I walked up to the gate house showed my drivers license and took her home.

Verdell 03-27-2025 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3897826)
who did you list as the adult picking her up in AUA because I’m 99.99% sure company rules say a working crew member can not be the receiving adult at the destination.

FOM 3.6.4 says on-duty employees and jumpseat riders can't be the accompanying adult for a minor child.

On Delta's website for unaccompanied minors, there is some language refering to the dropoff/pickup people as accompanying adults. I can't find a direct relationship, but if the FOM definition is also intended to refer to the dropoff/pickup person(s), could be a problem.

notEnuf 03-27-2025 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Verdell (Post 3897849)
FOM 3.6.4 says on-duty employees and jumpseat riders can't be the accompanying adult for a minor child.

On Delta's website for unaccompanied minors, there is some language refering to the dropoff/pickup people as accompanying adults. I can't find a direct relationship, but if the FOM definition is also intended to refer to the dropoff/pickup person(s), could be a problem.

The company appreciates you building thier case for them. Unaccompanied is different and those rules don't cross reference the FOM. I'd take that as my mulligan. YDY I'm not saying your wrong just a Karen.

BTW THIS^^^ is how you troll. Don't worry some mod will take it down.

Verdell 03-27-2025 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3897860)
The company appreciates you building thier case for them. Unaccompanied is different and those rules don't cross reference the FOM. I'd take that as my mulligan. YDY I'm not saying your wrong just a Karen.

BTW THIS^^^ is how you troll. Don't worry some mod will take it down.

Eh, you make a fair point and it's not a great troll. I am guilty of having a preference for understanding both sides of an argument though. Not sure that makes me a Karen.

For what it's worth, my initial post above was trying to make the point that an unaccompanied minor doesn't HAVE an accompanying adult. Then I read delta's UM policy on their website, and presented my findings with an edit of my post (which is what you quoted, after said edit.)


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