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Originally Posted by Speed Select
(Post 3947340)
Since we’re willing bases into existence…
AUS and RDU seem like prime candidates for a 220 base. Very flexible “premium” airplane, both AUS and RDU have RJ pilot bases (feed), both cities are of approx the same size with tech-based/pharma industry (higher yield premium pax) and both can support flights to Skyteam European hubs. Gate space is a problem. But I’m just an unfrozen caveman pilot. |
Originally Posted by Ripinpeace
(Post 3947137)
Huh?? You must not have heard it’s 787 and AUS 320 season right around the corner. Exciting times
Speaking to that long post you had a few pages ago....We have more cargo running into TPA than AUS. We have more cargo running into MCO than AUS. We have more cargo running into MIA than AUS. Supply stores at all of them as well. Means nothing regarding a precursor to a pilot base opening. Neither does hiring more above/below wing personnel. Opening an FA base there, means nothing. All of what you posted prior means nothing when it comes to Delta deciding to open a new pilot base. What does matter is whether the company can reduce credit by doing so. And can network decide on the fleet type(s). Historically that takes a decade or more. We've always been this way. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 3947386)
You need to read sailing's posts about base openings. Then read them again, and again. More flights does not equate to a potential for a new base, it must have a commensurate lowering of credit attached. If Network and Flt Ops can formulate that - Bob's your uncle and AUS opens. However, I maintain it won't happen in the next 10 years if not longer.
Speaking to that long post you had a few pages ago....We have more cargo running into TPA than AUS. We have more cargo running into MCO than AUS. We have more cargo running into MIA than AUS. Supply stores at all of them as well. Means nothing regarding a precursor to a pilot base opening. Neither does hiring more above/below wing personnel. Opening an FA base there, means nothing. All of what you posted prior means nothing when it comes to Delta deciding to open a new pilot base. What does matter is whether the company can reduce credit by doing so. And can network decide on the fleet type(s). Historically that takes a decade or more. We've always been this way. What’s our image? Who do we market to today? How’s AMEX effecting profits? Why does Tom Brady get paid by Delta Air Lines? How does Ed’s risk acceptance (and his own image) compare to previous CEOs? Etc, etc… The answers to all the questions above are totally different today than they would have 10, 20, or 30 years ago. So while none of this means an AUS base is immanent, “past performance is not indicative of future results.” Plus, from a route map perspective, AUS makes a lot more sense as a pilot base ensuring operational integrity than any of the cargo/leisure markets we serve in FL. 99.9% of most cargo doesn’t care if it’s a day late or can catch a ride on another company’s airplane. Delta customers pay extra to fly us and be on time. And the customers in Austin have the money to BUY those seats in the front of the jet. |
Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 3947025)
Just to add more details as to why the company hates PB days. I already went into how it drive negative staffing and further GS. But let's just look at pay:
... The beautiful thing about all of this is RES GS are covered all in the same step as REG pilots. This is the power of SS - the company can offer REG pilots premium pay that RES pilots are not eligible for. Once a rotation goes to GS coverage it is out of the company's hands whether a REG or RES gets it. And like I said earlier even if a RES isn't getting banked days but rather taking out future LC days, that is effectively a GSWC. So scheduling has to award that "conflict" to a RES pilot on the GS step of coverage if they are the eligible pilot, whereas scheduling almost never gets to the actual GSWC step of coverage where they would have to conflict with a REG pilot's future rotation and remove that. So as you can see the company would agree to 2X pay for RES GS instead of PB days in a heartbeat. The cost savings would be enormous. Even if a pilot never does RES and doesn't participate in PB days we should all at least be glad when other pilots are able to take advantage of a good system to make a lot more money and/or get more time at home. |
Originally Posted by Speed Select
(Post 3947394)
Only thing I’ll say counter to your [good] argument against indicators of an AUS pilot base is that the company is totally different today than a decade ago. Lots of the people who created the culture and decision sense you’re talking about left with Covid and have been replaced by less experienced ambitious risk takers from outside Fayette and Fulton counties.
What’s our image? Who do we market to today? How’s AMEX effecting profits? Why does Tom Brady get paid by Delta Air Lines? How does Ed’s risk acceptance (and his own image) compare to previous CEOs? Etc, etc… The answers to all the questions above are totally different today than they would have 10, 20, or 30 years ago. So while none of this means an AUS base is immanent, “past performance is not indicative of future results.” |
Originally Posted by PSpuza
(Post 3947132)
United has a couple of non-hub pilot bases. I bet something could be worked out between the Union and Company if we wanted some smaller pilot bases. And I’m not talking about the VB stuff.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3947399)
Yes, but opening a base isn't a "risk." It's a cost saving measure, primarily by reducing credit and hotel room expenses but also must be offset by the cost of renting lounge space and the additional risk/overhead of appropriately staffing a category (read: reserves). They also need ensure it will be open long enough to overcome any initial "start up" costs if they have to close it.
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
(Post 3947340)
Since we’re willing bases into existence…
AUS and RDU seem like prime candidates for a 220 base. Very flexible “premium” airplane, both AUS and RDU have RJ pilot bases (feed), both cities are of approx the same size with tech-based/pharma industry (higher yield premium pax) and both can support flights to Skyteam European hubs. Gate space is a problem. But I’m just an unfrozen caveman pilot. |
Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
(Post 3947406)
RDU is also undergoing a massive expansion/building plan. Parking has increased about 150%, and yes, that’s a new, replacement runway they are working on. So I’d say the airport is definitely trying to entice someone in there. Losing the American hub had to have hurt.
Then they’ll start on Terminal 1. Also, Unify was advertising openings for two KLM employees at RDU. Don’t know if the posting is still up. Separate listings were also posted for Air France, so it doesn’t seem to be a mix up in that sense. |
Originally Posted by Speed Select
(Post 3947404)
And my point by calling it a “risk” is all the money we’ve wasted on TB12, uniforms, etc. My guess is those business decisions were not made by “Good ole Cletus” who’s been here since 1983 and took the buyout in 2020. The business mentality isn’t what it used to be and statistics can be shaped to justify any business decision or expense savings. This just isn’t the airline that you’re referring to anymore. Not saying good or bad, not saying this does or doesn’t mean new bases. Just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if AUS is announced as a pilot base and it not make sense compared to previous decisions.
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