Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 4008128)

Is a pilot on long call even required to receive that phone call or listen to any resulting Voicemail?

Originally Posted by demon llama (Post 4008135)

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 4008152)

Well there certainly is some merit to your observation. We as Pilots normally use the PWA to its maximum extent for our own gain - shouldn't we expect the company to do the same? Definitely something to address in section 6.

As far as the whole pre-posting issue - is this just the company trying to force senior Pilots to fly more thus ensuring more Pilots are available later in the month or is more of a way to minimize premium pay? In other words does it appear that scheduling is purposely assigning this to junior Pilots or is just a function of off days and golden days? Can senior Pilots bid in a way to have rest assigned to them or is just the standard scheduling practice of extreme and total randomness that we have come to expect?

Lots to digest with this issue.

Scoop

Originally Posted by ShegotheD (Post 4008175)

Speak to your reps... Unfortunately, what the company is doing is legal; it seems almost as if they strategically started doing this just before Section 6 negotiations were set to begin.

Originally Posted by ShegotheD (Post 4008175)

Speak to your reps... Unfortunately, what the company is doing is legal; it seems almost as if they strategically started doing this just before Section 6 negotiations were set to begin.

Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 4008132)

Everything you wrote is happening. Whats worse is there is no rhyme or reason to the process.

Takes 2 reserves in the 4 day bucket, same raw group. Junior has golden X day following the LC block (thus has pre-posted rest) while senior has a standard X day with no rest. Scheduling will assign a rotation to the senior pilot instead of pulling the rest (which isn’t required for legality) of the junior pilot. Now take that example but senior has 12 pilots junior to him all with rest, and he gets hit with the rotation assignment. You can see why people are so PO’d, especially senior pilots. And guess what, once scheduling runs out of pilots without pre-posted rest they will then go in and start assigning back to the junior pilots by removing the rest periods that supposedly couldn’t be removed when they gave the senior pilot the original assignment.


But even then sometimes right from the start they will go and remove rest to assign to a junior pilot and not touch the senior pilot. Sometimes if the senior pilot gets the assignment they will call scheduling and scheduling will switch the assignment to the junior pilot, but usually not. But sometimes they will, so again there is no consistency to the process.

Originally Posted by Verdell (Post 4008273)

100%

And as I stated earlier in this thread, the kicker in all of this is that this arbitrary rest is counting as a "conflict" in both the assignment of rotations AND the reserves available formula. Much the same as if an actual rotation were on the RES pilot's schedule.

Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 4008276)

RES about to start going junior again. I've just had enough of the shenanigans. Especially with the neutering of PB days.