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04-16-2013, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
The concept of "Holy War" is supported in the Old Testament by Deuteronomy 20:12 ... "leave nothing that breathes." Israel's god commanded the total and complete annihilation of Canaan including women, children and livestock. I'm no scholar of such things, but the concept seems to have taken hold in all three religions who have their basis in Judaism. So my problem isn't with "Muslims" as much as it is with anyone who reaches back to a political discussion of an ancient war and believes it is some sort of telegraph from God to justify whatever they wish to do to their perceived enemies. IMHO what we have a problem with is spill over from our support for a Monarchy while we preach "democracy." The disaffected in Saudi Arabia take their frustrations out where they can. Their leaders manipulate ancient texts to justify atrocity in the "name of god."
In other words; the fact a 8 year old kid got killed would not upset a fundamentalist at all.
In other words; the fact a 8 year old kid got killed would not upset a fundamentalist at all.
04-16-2013, 09:17 AM
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04-16-2013, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
As I see it, more people have died in the name of religion than any other way... makes one wonder what the heck the piety is really all about! Be wise!
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
04-16-2013, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I think that this is a common statement today that reflects a more secular culture in the United States, but it also lacks facts. For instance,
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
Also keep in mind that everyone almost always thinks what they do is righteous, or at the very least somehow acceptable. The term "collateral damage" is used by those who employ western campaigns from "surgical strikes" to extremely large scale scorched earth decisions to "fundamentalists" narrow focus targeting and broad based strikes alike. In all cases many children were the end result, even if not deliberately targeted.
In any case its a nutty world out there. Be careful and be vigilant.
04-16-2013, 09:48 AM
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On a different subject, looks like the "Distinguished Warfare Medal" is history. It surpassed the Bronze Star (an award for heroism in combat) and and was supposed to be the medal for drone pilots and cyber warriors.
Seems like the right decision to remove it.
Pentagon cancels medal for Cyber Ops, Drone Strikes
Seems like the right decision to remove it.
Pentagon cancels medal for Cyber Ops, Drone Strikes
04-16-2013, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I think that this is a common statement today that reflects a more secular culture in the United States, but it also lacks facts. For instance,
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
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04-16-2013, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
But that is only a small portion of world history. I choose to avoid cults whether religious or atheist. I see your point Elvis, not casting any stones, just always curious why people choose to follow instead of think for themselves. We all need to think for ourselves! I assume we may be skirting on TOS areas here so I look forward to a new topic.. All the Best!
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04-16-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
In reality, the little boy ran out to greet his father who was finishing and then scurried back to the sideline where the bomb subsequently went off. I have no words for how horrible this is.
04-16-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I think that this is a common statement today that reflects a more secular culture in the United States, but it also lacks facts. For instance,
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.
Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.
Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.
Their religion? Atheism.
Atheists have done more for society than is given credit. They didn't do it in the name of Atheism. They did it for the sake of humanity. Here's a spiffy 2 minute video with links to get yourself educated.
Imagine If All Atheists Left America - YouTube
Last edited by xjcrew1; 04-16-2013 at 11:35 AM. Reason: dumbed it down
04-16-2013, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by xjcrew1
Facts are only useful when used in a logical format. Elvis, time for an education. Atheism is not a religion. Atheists don't go to atheist churches and pray, they don't sing atheist hymns. None of the people you mentioned, ever stated "I fight in the name of my Atheist religion."
Atheists have done more for society than is given credit. They didn't do it in the name of Atheism. They did it for the sake of humanity. Here's a spiffy 2 minute video with links to get yourself educated.
Imagine If All Atheists Left America - YouTube
It won't make a difference right now. But over time the brainwashing you've had since childhood HOPEFULLY will wear off.
Simply put; secular culture = peace, religion = war
Atheists have done more for society than is given credit. They didn't do it in the name of Atheism. They did it for the sake of humanity. Here's a spiffy 2 minute video with links to get yourself educated.
Imagine If All Atheists Left America - YouTube
It won't make a difference right now. But over time the brainwashing you've had since childhood HOPEFULLY will wear off.
Simply put; secular culture = peace, religion = war
Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, and Communist China are prime examples of secular atheistic cultures that led to millions of deaths.
If you are an atheist, on what basis do you define right and wrong?
If you want to watch a serious debate, may I suggest:
Lennox Vs. Dawkins Debate - Has Science Buried God? - YouTube
Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist, emeritus fellow at New College, Oxford, and the world's most outspoken atheist. Dr. John Lennox is a British mathematician and philosopher of science at Oxford University.
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