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Old 04-16-2013, 12:15 PM
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Are you guys really going to have this discussion as a round about response to the bombing? Really?

I bet people of all religions and non religions were coming to the aid of each other about this time yesterday.

It seems to me that peoples response to the bombing might be a better reason to not have the discussion you guys are starting. I heard there was a lot of volunteers doing all types of extraordinary things in Boston. They probably aren't asking the people they are helping what their religious beliefs are.

Whoever did this is responsible for it as an individual. Not his religion, or lack of religion.

We are all in the same boat. Whether you believe or don't believe.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:21 PM
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NewKnow, I'm not responding to the tragic Boston bombings at all. I was responding to the virtues of atheism and the moral decadence of Christianity, which I obviously disagree with. No more posts by me regarding this subject. /rant.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow View Post
Are you guys really going to have this discussion as a round about response to the bombing? Really?

I bet people of all religions and non religions were coming to the aid of each other about this time yesterday.

It seems to me that peoples response to the bombing might be a better reason to not have the discussion you guys are starting. I heard there was a lot of volunteers doing all types of extraordinary things in Boston. They probably aren't asking the people they are helping what their religious beliefs are.

Whoever did this is responsible for it as an individual. Not his religion, or lack of religion.

We are all in the same boat. Whether you believe or don't believe.
Well said!
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:23 PM
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If you are an atheist, on what basis do you define right and wrong?
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Social norms and Laws?
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
They go into a pay back day "bank" and you can use them as additional vacation days, or use them to drop trips if you save them til a month when you hold a line. They don't automatically show up on your schedule the next month.
To clarify, they automatically turn into supplemental vacation days at the end of the year. In other words, if you want to use them as a PB day, and not as a Vacation day, you need to do it before December 31st.

PB days are more valuable than a vacation day, so keep that in mind. With a 1 day trip for a lineholder being worth a min of 5:15, it's probably better to use them that way, than take it as vacation @ 3:15/day.

Also, in the past I've used them to break up RSV stretches. The best way is to place a PB day (if coverage allows) on day 3 of 5. Then you have 2 on, 1 off, 2 on. Your chances of flying (or getting SC) in the 1 & 2 day group are lower than the 3, 4, 5 groups - so if you do it right you can get a "week off" (with a little seniority & help from whiteslipping REG pilots) for 1 PB day. Have fun!
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow View Post
Are you guys really going to have this discussion as a round about response to the bombing? Really?

I bet people of all religions and non religions were coming to the aid of each other about this time yesterday.

It seems to me that peoples response to the bombing might be a better reason to not have the discussion you guys are starting. I heard there was a lot of volunteers doing all types of extraordinary things in Boston. They probably aren't asking the people they are helping what their religious beliefs are.

Whoever did this is responsible for it as an individual. Not his religion, or lack of religion.

We are all in the same boat. Whether you believe or don't believe.
+1!!!

I personally could careless what their reasoning or rationale is.
No reason to discuss, debate, or, most importantly, echo it.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:15 PM
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I think that this is a common statement today that reflects a more secular culture in the United States, but it also lacks facts. For instance,

Adolph Hitler - 12 million deaths attributed to him and his policies.

Joseph Stalin - 20 million deaths.

Mao Zedong - between 40-70 million deaths.

Their religion? Atheism.
that's ain't nothing

China Performed 336 Million Abortions Since 1971
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:18 PM
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We actually have a lot of friends who have adopted baby girls from China. Many of these little girls are super-smart when it comes to school. Precious gifts.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:29 PM
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OK, boys and girls... enough of th religious discussion. Weve made the rounds of blame and, as it turns out, everyone has skeletons in their closet regardless of your religion or lack thereof.

Any further postings of the sort will be deleted. Let's respect and pray for (or think about) the families of those involved and honor those who bravely dove in to help.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
To clarify, they automatically turn into supplemental vacation days at the end of the year. In other words, if you want to use them as a PB day, and not as a Vacation day, you need to do it before December 31st.

PB days are more valuable than a vacation day, so keep that in mind. With a 1 day trip for a lineholder being worth a min of 5:15, it's probably better to use them that way, than take it as vacation @ 3:15/day.

Also, in the past I've used them to break up RSV stretches. The best way is to place a PB day (if coverage allows) on day 3 of 5. Then you have 2 on, 1 off, 2 on. Your chances of flying (or getting SC) in the 1 & 2 day group are lower than the 3, 4, 5 groups - so if you do it right you can get a "week off" (with a little seniority & help from whiteslipping REG pilots) for 1 PB day. Have fun!
Also, just for scenario's sake, let's say you have one PB day and you have a 4 day trip that you don't like. You can put the PB day on day one of the trip and drop the whole trip. In that case you get paid the credit for the day you dropped, and you can WS or GS on the other three days of the trip if you are trying to maximize the cash. Or you can just put the PB day on the highest credit day of the 4 day and enjoy the 4 days off.
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