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Old 08-25-2009, 03:49 PM   #13211  
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Originally Posted by ExAF View Post
Most of the Capts I fly with have said they don't plan to start walk arounds after SOC either. You must be flying with the new kinder, gentler DAL-N Capts.
I bet they will once we sabotage their coffee once or twice...
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:19 PM   #13212  
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Originally Posted by whaledriver1 View Post
I always thought the pilot discount was just for FFDO H&K USP .40, what type of coin did the G27 set you back? I own a G27 and have never had a problem, great gun. Did you try using different types of ammo?
There is also a "pilot program" with glock, Cost me $398 new, which is a great deal. I used a couple different ammo types and it made no difference and it even jammed when using my Glock 23 clips. I dont know if it has a defect or what but for a glock to act like that is unheard of and i know it. My glock 23 has never caused me a single problem and I've had it longer and fired more rounds through it than the 27. Its brand new and i've only taken it to the range twice and i had problems both times which is why i sent it back to them. It has a build date of 4/29/09 and its only had about 200 rounds put through it so far (9 out of 50 jammed this weekend ).

Glock was very helpful over the phone and said send it in and we'll fix it or get you a new one. They said they were going to throw in a couple more clips in when it gets sent back for my inconvenience and because i had to pay to ship it back. I'm looking forward to getting it back and taking it out shooting again, I really think its a fluke and am really happy with the size of 27 for a carry weapon. we'll see

The pilot discount is around $150 cheaper than retail. A Gun store near me wanted $550 for a G27, so i was more than happy to get it for $398
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:30 PM   #13213  
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Part of me says give it a rest, but Scoop asked me some questions that I'll answer...

Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
First off - You say my post is a mixed message - it is not. I am saying that I blame the COMAIR union not individual pilots. Can you completely seperate the two - no...

I could read it that way too. Instead of mixed message I could have said ambiguous message.

I Really like your cut and paste editing job. You make inferences about my post but gloss over the part where I say "...Pilots are individuals and should be treated as such."

You requested that I cut and paste any posts that said the entire pilot group was culpable. I believe I did that. Anyone can click on the arrow to see the full context of the quotes I pulled. I thought I left the "pilots are individuals" part in your post.

And when I say "Pilot who were not on property have no culpability whatsoever." You attempt to turn this into "All COMAIR pilots are culpable."

No, I say it can be inferred. If not A equals B, then A could equal not B.

As far as I can tell the only one who says "All COMAIR pilots are culpable." in your cut and paste job is you.

And what do you think of the other four posts?

I don't agree with the statement that "All COMAIR pilots are culpable." But I also don't agree that there is no culpability whatsoever for any COMAIR Pilots.

Fair enough.

JC Lawson and his crowd tried and succeeded in screwing the DAL furloughees.

Do you disagree with this point?

No, it sounds like Lawson "and his crowd" rubbed plenty of salt on those wounds.
I saw the "Lawson Letter" a week ago for the first time. I think it's embarrasing. I was not at Comair when it happened, nor was it common knowledge at my previous job, nor did any Comair reps mention it during my interview. I'm just trying to stand up for the guys that had nothing to do with that fiasco.
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:43 PM   #13214  
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Originally Posted by whaledriver1 View Post
I always thought the pilot discount was just for FFDO H&K USP .40
The public HK website says the Airline Pilot offer expires in October.

Anybody know if this means that price expires, ie. the price is going up again, or is the entire program ending?

And I'll say again, I'm referring to the public HK website, open to public viewing. I am not referring to any FFDO / TSA / DHS website, offer, or program.

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Old 08-25-2009, 10:11 PM   #13215  
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bump...does it expire?
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Old 08-26-2009, 03:40 AM   #13216  
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There are always deals for FFDO's etc.
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Old 08-26-2009, 03:52 AM   #13217  
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post more comment on this walk-around stuff: it's going to take care of itself anyway. On FMS aircraft, with the PF now loading the box, it'll only take a few delayed departures, or some sort of gross navigation error before any "inside Captain" gets religion, and re-discovers his/her coat.
On the 320 to load the box now only requires 1 key stroke. Please take the extra 30 seconds on your walk around. I'll still get the plane out on time......what's a coat?
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:07 AM   #13218  
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Originally Posted by reddog25 View Post
...what's a coat?

It's that wadded up piece of material under your hat, but that's not important right now.
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Old 08-26-2009, 04:32 AM   #13219  
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Yes... HK told me that as long as the papework is in and approved you will get your handgun.

Otherwise it is finished October 31, 2009.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:07 AM   #13220  
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Since ACL is adding to the inane pratter that seems to have permeated this thread as of late.. I'm betting that there will be no significant news until post SOC... anybody? But then... the bloodbath begins...
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