tsquare

ANYBODY man/woman or otherwise...that has a gun to my temple and a hand in my wallet deserved to get punched.

tsquare

This^

And This^^

And as I said, this is not an argument worth persuing any further.

Amish Pilot

JABDIP, it's not so bad, you just need to find things to do with your free time. (Long Call Reserve) Lets see, here is my to do list:

1. Change the oil and put new plugs in my snowmobiles.
2. Put up tree stands & cameras for deer season.
3. Split & Stack wood for winter.
4. Wax x-country skis.
5. Mount snow tires on spare rims.

Best of all if I get all my chores done, I can play on my days off. I perfer the DAL reserve system to the old NWA system. I get way more done.

acl65pilot

I agree. I actually like LC reserve. On SC I do not do things like Power Wash the house, wash the car, cut the grass, etc. I do chores that require less sweat like cleaning, dry cleaning, etc. I just drive around with all of my stuff in my car. I never go grocery shopping on SC because that is a sure fire way to get a short call out. Other than that, it is the same, but only if you live in base.

That is why, for the commuters I do not mind getting a some sort of credit for SC so that they (commuters) can bid away from it(on a daily basis). It is all the same to me.

NWA320pilot

I have to agree with this..... ER is a type of flying. TOE is given for operations in a specific theater hence the reason Int'l guys receive it.

As for the bounces in the actual aircraft that was DAL's decision, and the cost associated with that decision have no bearing on what constitutes an ER. While fNWA had no 767 aircraft the pilots there had been doing ER type flying.

alfaromeo

ER is shorthand for 767-300 ER. It was also how the international categories were referred to that flew the 767-300ER. Both NWA and DAL had ETOPS certified 757-200's before the merger. The controversy is that Delta used to have domestic 767 categories that flew the 757's and 767-300's (non-extended range) domestically and the "ER" categories only did international. Since the merger, Delta has been phasing out the domestic categories and a lot of the "ER" flying has moved Westbound to the mysterious Orient, while the A-330 and 767-400 have filled in that flying to Europe. So the old ATL and NYC "ER" categories have been picking up more domestic time. It offends their sensibilities and much angst has ensued.

You would think that in CVG, where our category was eliminated and shipped off to DTW and SEA, that we would doing the majority of complaining. We have been doing and would be glad to continue doing the lowly domestic flying rather than commute. I guess you can never please some people. Change happens, some people deal with it better than others.

TOGA LK

Good morning Gents...

Keep Climbing!

fly2002

So Moak is running for ALPA President I see.....what do we think about that boys?

TOGA LK

So if you were a junior block holder you would rather fall back to reserve than have the option of exercising an MD and moving to another category in which you could hold a line. Seriously, think back to when you had no seniority to even be senior on something. Again, I gave a clear examples of why I think this AE system is dated.

The reference was to Delta's 80 year history, we might as well start from scratch and come up with something that's modern and efficient in lieu of something you would expect back in the 70's (40 years later) when everything was done by hand. This AE system is a "one of a kind." I would be very interested to see the demographics of the guys that created and molded this system into a contract

TOGA LK

You had to see that coming... I'm sure he will find a lucrative position within the ATA if that doesn't work out (slightly assisted by management).

Lates...