buzzpat

LOL. That's my new bumper sticker.

It'll go great out here in SoCal. Right there with "COEXIST," "Who Would Jesus Bomb?," "Support your local organic farmer," "Say No to Prop H8TE!," and "Bush Lied, People Died."

1234

Don't forget "Go Green with Prop 19"

buzzpat

Yep, and I almost forgot the most important one, "Bros Before Eskimos!"

ITSALLGOOD

Here is a starting point: 1. Stovepipe both lists; this results in DAL Capts in the 73n down to DC9 being between 23% and 46% (2852 pilots) and AK Capts roughly 1% to 50% (about 725 pilots). 2. Ratio those groups...approx. 4-1 DAL pilots. 3. a repeat of this on the FO side would see DAL 73n and below FOs fall out 78%-100% (2728 pilots). Again, a 4-1 ratio of the bottom of the AK list into this group.

I hate fences as they are devisive by definition, but one might need to fence the 767 and up for 3 years (based on retirements starting to kick in, thus a boost in movement). Seat protect the AK guys in the SEA and ANC 73n category for 3 yrs (we need to make it less painful for them as well). LAX 73n open to all as we both have 73 bases there.

This would leave DAL 1%-23% completely unfazed. 23%-46% might see some minor issues on the west coast with a slight slow down in upgrade after 3 years, but that is unlikely as we continue to see growth in the WB flying out west. 46%-77% in the west would actually be helped as they would all be first in line for the Capt jobs coming available as AK Capts retire. hard to say what the impact would be on 78%-100%. Upside would be 1400 more positions on the west coast, downside of course is those AK FOs probably would not be going anywhere anytime soon.

Also keep in mind, the AK group is more senior (in age) than DAL. Their retirement rate as a percentage of total pilot group will be faster than DAL over the next 10ish years. This means more opportunity for upgrade and movement into west bases than we can currently expect.

I realize there are all kinds of other issues, and many may have valid arguments as to why these assumptions are wrong. I just thought I would throw the idea out there to be built on/deviated from...or completely dismissed as nonsense.

RockyBoy

Yes, it is a first come first serve system. I would't mind that system, but I know that the majority wouldn't like it so I think having more PCS runs would be the answer. I honestly think if we had real time trading on a first come first serve basis like most other airlines have, guys would learn they like that over what we now have. Sure you might miss a trip or two, but you can make your life much better with a system like that. I've done both now and prefer the live swap system....I even perferred it when I was senior.

Here are a couple of ideas for a real time trading system. Let blind swaps be submitted and awarded in seniority order before the trip is dropped into the pot. If your flying fill out your wish list and if a trip comes open while flying and it matches your requests, you get it if your seniority holds it. No waiting for a PCS run. If the trip goes into the pot then those who request it could receive a text telling them a new trip has dropped into open time. When the trip is dumped into the pot a 15 minute clock is started. During that 15 minutes everyone who gets a text can use their smart phone to look at the trip and request a trade or to pick it up. When the 15 minutes is over, it is awarded to the most senior person who wants it. If it is still in the pot after that, first person to request it gets it real time. Allowing swaps and white slips up until 12 hours prior to report would also be nice.

forgot to bid

We can get 500 of said stickers for $0.62 a piece. Sell them for $2 to each and every one of the LAX guys and whoever else we can find that will support the cause and make a cool $600 or so dollars.

DAMN YOU SHIP SETS!!!!

One Taco

Everybody remember those comparisons of our pay to that of TSA passenger screening officers. Of course, those were all valid and still are, but....

looking at Drudge's lead picture today had me thinking you couldn't pay me enough to do that job!! Yikes!

And there is your random thought for the day. Somehow I'm just that little bit more grateful for my job (having not been subjected to the junk screen yet).

One Taco

oh, and this.......

Delta Fleet Workers Reject Union - TheStreet

sinca3

......+1......

tsquare

Stock's up .55... amazing. We got any more union votes coming up?