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Old 11-21-2010, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer View Post
Toga- thanks.

I'm going to start printing out these and placing them in "when scheduling calls" like bulletins.

I hope our next contract is written by redneck lawyers so I can understand what the f they are trying to get me to do.
You are welcome my Douglas brother! I'd forward it to Ken Watts or someone in contract admin just to double check it, it's based upon my understanding and as others have explained to me. Fortunately, there are a lot of smart people lurking these threads, if my analysis is off hopefully someone will chime in.

I've heard changes are coming to the reserve system in the not so distant future once the IT improvements arrive.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:08 PM
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TOGA, whats the LK for in your name?
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Just curious... why would they? Pro/Con.
It's not a black & white requirement of USERRA. I'm sure it's at least partially a patriotism/good will toward the military issue. Legally, I think the biggest reason they will continue to do it is that they have established it as a past practice over many years, and to change the policy would invite lawsuits. I wouldn't disagree if they withheld the payments until the individuals return from leave. No sense giving someone a check that doesn't intend to return.

I really don't understand why Long-term sick is (or has been) treated differently.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
TOGA, whats the LK for in your name?
It's abbreviation for TOGA LK (lock), it's an FMA annunciation on Airbus equipment that the thrust management system has applied TOGA in response to alpha floor protection. I picked it bc it is analogous to the industry being at (hopefully) the lowest level and guys (employees and management) working at their best to restore the profession and the industry.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
It's not a black & white requirement of USERRA. I'm sure it's at least partially a patriotism/good will toward the military issue. Legally, I think the biggest reason they will continue to do it is that they have established it as a past practice over many years, and to change the policy would invite lawsuits. I wouldn't disagree if they withheld the payments until the individuals return from leave. No sense giving someone a check that doesn't intend to return.

I really don't understand why Long-term sick is (or has been) treated differently.
AMR was the first airline that the DOJ went after over USERRA violations. Its nice to see that Delta strives to take care of our heros in such contrast.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:30 PM
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49 View Post
So if you are on Mil Leave you get profit sharing based on "deemed" income for the year, would that be at the rate you were at prior to departing and min guarentee. If on sick leave you would get profit sharing based on 240hrs a year which is you max allowable sick leave in a year?

I don't think "Deemed" is the correct term. Like someone else said it's based on what is on your W-2 for 2010.

It's not like the 401K which is based off the pay rate for the person above and below you in a military leave situation or the DC plan that uses the average of the pilots' active pay in the 12 months immediately preceding the military leave multiplied by the individual's applicable defined contribution percentage.

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Old 11-21-2010, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK View Post
It's abbreviation for TOGA LK (lock), it's an FMA annunciation on Airbus equipment that the thrust management system has applied TOGA in response to alpha floor protection. I picked it bc it is analogous to the industry being at (hopefully) the lowest level and guys (employees and management) working at their best to restore the profession and the industry.
The DC Jets guys just say "wake up the sleeping and the dead"... that means go-around.
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:45 PM
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The DC Jets guys just say "wake up the sleeping and the dead"... that means go-around.
Exactly!

"Reveille, reveille, wake up beatches!"
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Profit Sharing eligible income is defined in the "annual compensation" definition of section 3. Profit sharing is paid on sick pay. It is not paid on disability payments.

This is straight from the PWA:

“Annual compensation” for purposes of the profit sharing plan, means an employee’s gross earnings during the profit sharing plan year, including any sick and vacation pay (whether paid by the Company or from a disability and survivor trust), but excluding: a) expense reimbursements, b) expense allowances, c) income required to be imputed to the
employee for any reason pursuant to federal, state or local law, d) profit sharing awards, e) earnings from any other incentive compensation program, f) Company contributions to a retirement plan, g) disability payments, h) income from the grant, vesting, exercise or sale of Delta stock or Delta stock options, i) income relating to, or resulting from,
bankruptcy claims, notes, or other securities, j) medical plan payments and k) severance payments. In addition, annual compensation for the purposes of the profit sharing plan includes pilot furlough pay.



How much did we pay to have this in our contract?
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