Originally Posted by TOGA LK

AMR was the first airline that the DOJ went after over USERRA violations. Its nice to see that Delta strives to take care of our heros in such contrast.

Originally Posted by PilotFrog

So we have had two engine failures recently right? One on a 757 diverted into Ireland, and this 767. Will that impair our ETOPS? I know different engines, but just wondering.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I was wondering the same thing. How many are we allowed to have again? Is it a percentage or event based thing?

Originally Posted by PilotFrog

So we have had two engine failures recently right? One on a 757 diverted into Ireland, and this 767. Will that impair our ETOPS? I know different engines, but just wondering.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

At some point while I was furloughed (around 2004-2005ish) NWA was cancelling a bunch of flights for lack of crews (imagine that.) They had the nerve to make gate announcements blaming the cancellations on the large number of pilots that were on military leave! Un-freakin' believable! They got some angry calls from the Reserve Officer's Association over that, and the announcements stopped pretty quickly.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

Running low on knowledge (as usual). A company can loose ETOPs overs engine failures???

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

Let me see if I have a grasp of it?

Coming off an X-day your reserve starts at midnight base time. From midnight, they can place something on your schedule and start the 12 hour window for a trip assignment or they can convert you to shortcall within 10 hours with a 2 hour commuter extension. Your only obligation to acknowledge either a trip or shortcall is 3 hours prior.

On an X-day, all pilots are available for a following day assignment of a trip with a checking of 0500 base time or a RAP as early as 0500 base time. No acknowledgement is required on your X-day (Its assumed you are vacationing and not contactable). When the swing shift arrives, they will typically call you after 1500 base time at some arbitrary point in time to verify that you are aware of your assignment if you have a trip or shortcall. Again, there is no requirement to answer this call or verify an assignment on an X-day (you can and most do in good faith).

After midnight, it gets interesting as you do have a requirement to acknowledge a trip or shortcall by 0200, three hours prior to a potential 0500 shortcall or sign-in. This equates to a duty period that essentially can start as soon as 5 hours following X-day; this is likely the logic that is used to say that an assignment can start as soon as five hours following an FAR 24/7 rest period. Once you roll past 02:00 base time of the first day, your only requirement for establishing contact or verifying a status is 3 hours prior to the event.

From what I've experienced.

While on reserve or a trip and on long call the following day, they will assign an open time trip for the following day early on the morning shift. No one will likely call you until the swing shift, but they will call you three hours prior to the following day assignment. The AM schedulers rely upon the VRU for next day assignments while the swing schedulers may clean up with a phone call if you haven't acknowledged. Once open time for the following day is assigned, if another trip pops up the schedulers will (they always have for me) call and notify you, minimum 12 hours notice otherwise pop ups handled by short call. Some people forget that a long call assignment can come down to you at 21:00 base time (while you are enroute home) for an 09:00 report the following am.... Commuters beware.


There's probably more. The basics are most definitely setup around a reserve living in base.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

Running low on knowledge (as usual). A company can loose ETOPs overs engine failures???

Originally Posted by Mike Hancho

Thanks TOGA LK. That is as clearly as I have seen this explained. I am a new hire and based in DTW on the 320. I live about 300 miles from DTW and live near an airport with three Pinnacle CRJ 200 flights a day to DTW. Was curious if anyone else has a similar situation. Am curious how much of the time I need to stay in DTW the night before unassigned long call days.