slinky

You really don't have a problem until you find yourself standing in a bathroom holding your thumb and ****ing in your pants.....until then drink away my friend.

Superpilot92

Now that's funny!! Lmao

forgot to bid

Looks like the 100-149 seat jet market might has a new entry with Bombardier finally getting an order for its 100-115 seat C series, an airplane that will in various forms seat up to 149 if the layout has a knee buckling 30" pitch. This is a program that has been announced and shelved several times but they finally have an order for 30 and have launched it.

The question is, would Delta ever seriously consider the C series being that Delta has been a very loyal Bombardier customer for its rj fleet?

The smaller C-series is an airplane that is the same size and near same performance of the Embraer 190/195 but the ejet has been out for a while, its proven and its available now unlike the c-series. Also, the larger C-series is the same size as the already well proven A319 and 73-7 but probably without the performance. So it seems to be stepping on toes either a bit too late and even if it is a contender will it hold up if Airbus makes improvements or Embraer comes out with a clean sheet aircraft that its supposedly developing that just might have the words "Boeing" stamped on the side of it. Or so I've heard.

Can you tell I'm trying not to study?

acl65pilot

I can tell you that we are looking at it. We wanted to see it get orders and get off the CAD program before we committed to it. It looks like those GTF's are performing better than expected.
It does look like a good jet. Now lets hope they see it fitting our needs. I know that many like the idea of it.
As for the 737's. We have what we are going to get. (Includes what is on order)

NuGuy

Heyas,

From what I understand, most mainline operators of the E jets are not really that happy with them. My buddy says that "they took the worst ideas from Boeing and Airbus and put them in one airplane".

He goes on to say that fuel consumption specs never really made it, and that the dispatch reliability is notsohotso. I'm sure I'll get flammed by the hordes of low-paid e-jet fanbois, but I'm just passing on someone else's opinion (albiet one that I value).

The RJ900 and follow-ons are never going to make it to the "big league" due to the restrictions of the platform. It's just too darn uncomfortable and still "not mainline".

The C series could be Bombardier's way of breaking into the big league with a really first rate piece of equipment, and if the GTF meets specs, it could be the "RJ killer" (ahh, the irony of having that sticker on your flight bag...turnabout is fair play). If you want to know the difference in "big league" equipment, slam the door on a BMW, and then slam the door on a 1980's Tercel, and you'll know.

As we move forward, it's becoming apparent that the 70ish seat market, including the 76 seaters, is getting played out, just like the 50 seat market below it. The real break even in this category is north of 80 seats.

The only competitors to DAL that have 76 seaters are financial cripples: IE UAL and AAA. Everyone else has either limited 70 seaters (AMR, CAL) or none at all (AAI and SWA), and so my thinking is that if we can hold the line with scope, the arrival of the C series at the mainline will spell their doom.

Then all the low-paid regional fanbois can fly the Bandits, ATRs and 1900s back from the desert and get some real experience.

Nu

Gladioslave

For the 75/76 folks, how did you know you were assigned the 5 day DAL/nw come to Jesus training?

forgot to bid

Man I hope this means this is the end of the CRJ1000. This new airplane is a 2 and 3 aisle configuration, very cool. But a lot of the C-series' advantages comes in its engines and not in its design (picture the A320 mates with the 787 while nobody is looking) so I'm wondering if the other 3 (B, A & E) won't start slapping those engines under their wings? Its also forecasted to weigh nearly as much as a 737-700, BBD needs to lighten it up, staple its stomach or something because in development it'll gain weight.

So no more 737s huh? How about A319/320s?

As to the Ejets I'll let Compass or RAH pilots chime in but as far as I know from buddies at JetBlue and RAH and from reading a report from Air Canada is that the Ejets are doing very very well in reliability but it has had a notsohotso past. Air Canada, a mainline carrier that flies ejets (it is possible folks, get your proxies in before Friday), claims that their Ejets are their second most reliable aircraft. The wiring issues of 2006-2007 were addressed and right now its more prone to pilot error during power up starts than anything else. Its fly by wire and the controls are calibrated so while in calibration if you bang the control column with your knee as you're moving around then it can fail and that requires a reset. Embraer = Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Reset. But overall I believe the plane is doing very well as do most all new airliners after a few years from any of the big 4. They all build good planes.

Now if Bombardier was smart with this 100 seat jet they need to rename this thing the CRJ-100 or C-100RJ. They've got to get the name RJ put in there so they can sell it to Delta and/or our union as an RJ and they'll in turn promise us that if we relax section 1 we'll never be forced to fly these rjs. And gosh, we'll thank them for it as DAL orders 150.

Still not studying nor bidding. I need to bid. You know I'd forgotten if I hadn't gotten this automated call from DAL reminding me to bid. They're going to take me claim to fame away from me if they keep this up.

acl65pilot

As usual dead on. There is a major debate about the future of the 76 seat jets. They need to be upped to 88 or 86 seats. I am sure that pressure will be put on DALPA to cave on scope to give the DCI carriers some flying. Simply put we need to protect what we have at all costs. Going after the 76 and below scope is a good place to start at. It does not mean that we will get it, but no gain in seat scope limits is a win too.

This C-series is proving to be a good paper jet. YUL has been visited recently......

CVG767A

Is there really an automated phone call if you haven't entered a bid?

Fly4hire

Speculation or basis in fact that they are going to approach DALPA for further Scope relief?