Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Wow, missed a lot today while doing DTW-DEN-CVG-LGA.
I'm always hoping for the slot swap to go through. That's quite a but if extra flying & revenue. More heavy metal would be great too.
I'm always hoping for the slot swap to go through. That's quite a but if extra flying & revenue. More heavy metal would be great too.
5. Should the merged company take delivery of any aircraft which is/are a replacement of any aircraft covered by Paragraph 4., the captain positions and, as applicable, the first officer positions on each such replacement aircraft will be allocated in accordance with the Paragraph 4. restrictions on the type it is replacing.
Paragraph 4 is the actual fence paragraph of the award on the 777's, 747's, and 787's. As far as replacing 330's with 744's, there is nothing specific in the arbitrated decision that I could see. I'm sure it would go to the arbitrator. I was just giving my opinon and we all know what they are like!!
Denny
If the company is smart, they won't mess around with any of the fenced categories until the fences come down. There are what, two/three more years til then?
So, if the company decides to take more 777's to replace the 787's on order then they would be open for all to bid? Or do the fences on the 787 transfer to the additional 777's
My interpretation of the SLI conditions and restrictions says the answer to your question is yes the replacement aircraft would be open for all to bid. Here is the applicable item from the conditions and restrictions:
5. Should the merged company take delivery of any aircraft which is/are a replacement of any aircraft covered by Paragraph 4., the captain positions and, as applicable, the first officer positions on each such replacement aircraft will be allocated in accordance with the Paragraph 4. restrictions on the type it is replacing.
Paragraph 4 is the actual fence paragraph of the award on the 777's, 747's, and 787's. As far as replacing 330's with 744's, there is nothing specific in the arbitrated decision that I could see. I'm sure it would go to the arbitrator. I was just giving my opinon and we all know what they are like!!
Denny
My interpretation of the SLI conditions and restrictions says the answer to your question is yes the replacement aircraft would be open for all to bid. Here is the applicable item from the conditions and restrictions:
5. Should the merged company take delivery of any aircraft which is/are a replacement of any aircraft covered by Paragraph 4., the captain positions and, as applicable, the first officer positions on each such replacement aircraft will be allocated in accordance with the Paragraph 4. restrictions on the type it is replacing.
Paragraph 4 is the actual fence paragraph of the award on the 777's, 747's, and 787's. As far as replacing 330's with 744's, there is nothing specific in the arbitrated decision that I could see. I'm sure it would go to the arbitrator. I was just giving my opinon and we all know what they are like!!
Denny
Now if 744s were replacements for 330s you might be right about that they could possibly open to everyone. You are definitely right it would go to the arbitrator.
I disagree that if the company buys 777s to replace the 787 it will be open to all pilots to bid. The "replacement" aircraft would be "allocated in accordance with the Paragraph 4. restrictions on the type it is replacing." i.e. the new positions would go to northies.
Now if 744s were replacements for 330s you might be right about that they could possibly open to everyone. You are definitely right it would go to the arbitrator.
Now if 744s were replacements for 330s you might be right about that they could possibly open to everyone. You are definitely right it would go to the arbitrator.
Denny
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Because I realized how many would actually agree with the statement, and send me PM's and e-mails to tell me they had noticed the same thing.
I'm saving it for an even better post about the correlation between slight speech impediments and ALPA leadership positions.
It's a consssspiracy.
I'm saving it for an even better post about the correlation between slight speech impediments and ALPA leadership positions.
It's a consssspiracy.
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I feel it is my duty to point out certain things*......Alfa, talking about Nu and a "cry like a girl" comment was distasteful, and you would be the winner today....BUT......I am limiting it to the L&G thread only, as there is too much douchy-ness all over on the DPA thread, regardless of which "side" you lean towards.
Capn's comments about "never" going to the ALPA site and then calling out anyone "except PG" to PM with factual information leads me to designate him the official:
"Latest and Greatest"
Of the Day.
It will not be awarded daily, and on occasion I may even have to award it to myself (maybe a few days late after realizing what I had previously posted), but it will always be available as a prize to those who have distinguished themselves.
*Disclosure: I have had a few tonight, and if I judge that it was an unfair award, I will follow through and award it to myself. Good night.
Capn's comments about "never" going to the ALPA site and then calling out anyone "except PG" to PM with factual information leads me to designate him the official:
"Latest and Greatest"
Of the Day.
It will not be awarded daily, and on occasion I may even have to award it to myself (maybe a few days late after realizing what I had previously posted), but it will always be available as a prize to those who have distinguished themselves.
*Disclosure: I have had a few tonight, and if I judge that it was an unfair award, I will follow through and award it to myself. Good night.
Brilliant!
To all my L+G douchy bruthas, try to keep it less douchy on here. Douchiness has been discovered and will be exposed. Even more than the high level of douchebaggetaciousness on the DPA thread, the SWA/AAI windfall thread is overflowing with solid douchinsky's.
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