Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2011, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
If you haven't seen Carl's posts then you are now seeing the thrust of every argument he makes. Pretty soon he will say "You don't know what you are talking about" and then insult you in some fashion.
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03-25-2011, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Well its been 10 minutes since you posted and Sink is no where to be found so I'll do his dirty sophomoric work...
Alfa, instead of ignoring Carl why don't you go master debate with him?
Alfa, instead of ignoring Carl why don't you go master debate with him?
I'm going fishing.
Carl
03-25-2011, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Well, I think we all got to see what is in our future via what just happened at FedEx. With our brand new ALPA president at the helm, a Tentative Agreement was announced by the FDX MEC after only a few months of negotiating. Took most every member by surprise. Found out that it extended the current contract either one or two more years depending on the MEC's desire. In return, the pilots got a 3% pay raise. This from a company that makes BILLIONS in net profit.
The FDX MEC then puts out a massive PR campaign via road shows to convince the pilots to vote YES. Not educate them on the facts, but to vote YES. Results: TA voted in by 68%.
This is the new ALPA.
Carl
The FDX MEC then puts out a massive PR campaign via road shows to convince the pilots to vote YES. Not educate them on the facts, but to vote YES. Results: TA voted in by 68%.
This is the new ALPA.
Carl
First, you don't need to constantly reiterate how much you despise Moak. We all get that, and it does little to further your argument.
Second, as you said, it was the FedEx MEC that did the sell job, so we really cannot blame Moak for that.
Third... OK.. 3 comments: There is nothing new about this.
03-25-2011, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
I couldn't respond at that the time because I was on a trip with just the Ipad, but 80 posted something especially egregious and was not sufficiently punished. Someone posted a cleansing video, of "Teenage Dream" Katy Perry(damn you Russel Brand). 80 did not deserve to view that video, so here is one just for 80's eyes only...
YouTube - GLEE - "Teenage Dream" Full Performance!
YouTube - GLEE - "Teenage Dream" Full Performance!
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Ugh, I feel compelled to watch... Wish me luck.
I want to know if 80 is supposed to be the lead singer or his boy toy?
03-25-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
2 comments:
First, you don't need to constantly reiterate how much you despise Moak. We all get that, and it does little to further your argument.
Second, as you said, it was the FedEx MEC that did the sell job, so we really cannot blame Moak for that.
Third... OK.. 3 comments: There is nothing new about this.
First, you don't need to constantly reiterate how much you despise Moak. We all get that, and it does little to further your argument.
Second, as you said, it was the FedEx MEC that did the sell job, so we really cannot blame Moak for that.
Third... OK.. 3 comments: There is nothing new about this.
I suspect National was behind the sales job. I got to see a little glimpse into their communications program and it seemed to be centered around sales not communication.
03-25-2011, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
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I suspect National was behind the sales job. I got to see a little glimpse into their communications program and it seemed to be centered around sales not communication.
I suspect National was behind the sales job. I got to see a little glimpse into their communications program and it seemed to be centered around sales not communication.
03-25-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
You're probably now wishing you didn't - aren't you?
I want to know if 80 is supposed to be the lead singer or his boy toy?
I want to know if 80 is supposed to be the lead singer or his boy toy?
03-25-2011, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
2 comments:
First, you don't need to constantly reiterate how much you despise Moak. We all get that, and it does little to further your argument.
First, you don't need to constantly reiterate how much you despise Moak. We all get that, and it does little to further your argument.
Originally Posted by tsquare
Second, as you said, it was the FedEx MEC that did the sell job, so we really cannot blame Moak for that.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
But FDX ALPA (with the financial and expert resources of ALPA national) put forth a tremendous sales pitch via a series of road shows.
Carl
Carl
Originally Posted by tsquare
Third... OK.. 3 comments: There is nothing new about this.
Carl
03-25-2011, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Does it matter at all to you that I've never said I despise Moak? I don't know him, and we've never met. I judge him on his actions and written statements.
This is what I said in the next post:
ALPA national funds all activities of its local unions.
You're right. This is the same template ALPA national has used for some time now. Lee is just the latest leader to use the template. My hope is that we Delta pilots realize that no matter how much net profit our company makes, our own union thinks 3% is an outstanding achievement (Lee's words).
Carl
This is what I said in the next post:
ALPA national funds all activities of its local unions.
You're right. This is the same template ALPA national has used for some time now. Lee is just the latest leader to use the template. My hope is that we Delta pilots realize that no matter how much net profit our company makes, our own union thinks 3% is an outstanding achievement (Lee's words).
Carl
03-25-2011, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yeah.. I am not interested in getting into a furball with you today. Buuuuut... you have never said it in so many words, but I don't believe that you have anything other than contempt for LM. That's the last I will say on that, and if you rebuff it.. I'll let it go, but I know what I read (albeit between the lines). And... I agree with you concerning the template. I am anxiously awaiting LM to change the modus operendii coming from Herndon.. but I think I will be disappointed.. (Cue ACL,PG and alfa) Oh, that's right, since I want that changed, I need to get out from behind the keyboard and get involved...
Dont forget call your reps...
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