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Old 06-09-2011, 02:43 PM
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Any idea where planning will displace the DTW 320 B's too? They're saying they don't need MD90 peeps, but where else will they send them?
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Any idea where planning will displace the DTW 320 B's too? They're saying they don't need MD90 peeps, but where else will they send them?
I envision a lot of the bottom guys being bumped to either a 9 or 88 seat in NYC or MSP.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PropNWA View Post
Don't know about your first question but as to the second...

The $175 M is money that we owed regardless. All that is happening now is that we have to repay it immediately as opposed to whenever it was originally due to be paid off. Not really that big of a deal for Delta, I'd imagine.
If the interest rate is anything above ~ 8% Delta is money ahead by paying it off anyway.

Someone asked about capacity coming out of the system and hiring. They have announced DC9 retirements which are offset by MD90 acquisitions. The decision on hiring will happen once marketing tells Flight Ops what it wants to fly in Summer 2012 and beyond. Expect very late in the fall to winter quarter and then expect flow through pilots to affect the equation. Once hiring starts it should continue, unless we continue to shrink.

Someone can correct me if this is mistaken, but I believe we are planning on a smaller airline than we were after the merger and perhaps even smaller than we were (combined) post bankruptcy.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Any idea where planning will displace the DTW 320 B's too? They're saying they don't need MD90 peeps, but where else will they send them?
What's your plan? You gonna hang tight in DTW or VD out?
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
I envision a lot of the bottom guys being bumped to either a 9 or 88 seat in NYC or MSP.
These displacements are a real wild card.

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Old 06-09-2011, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
I dunno. At the bottom the NWA DC9 pilots were integrated even with DAL 767 pilots. There are still quite a number of f-DAL pilots out of position for what their post merger seniority would hold in a stovepipe bid. The f-NWA pilots often bid to remain more senior in category. If pushed to bid something else the relatively senior pilots could displace up a category or three, starting some pretty radical displacement pin action. The unknown variable is the decision Delta will make on backfill positions.

Recall two bids ago it looked like a complete blood bath for Atlanta with a number of 76-5 and 767 positions going away, but, a reprieve was found by pooling extra pilots on the MD88 and staffing the 737 a little higher than projected.

These displacements are a real wild card.
I spent a lot of time looking at this at the time of the merger, and it looked like the fNWA pilots actually bid for the biggest piece of equipment they could hold. It was more blurry for the senior WB F/O's, some of whom went for QOL, but everyone else looked a lot more "stovepiped" than DAL. If you think about it, you're proving it when you say more DAL pilots were above their stovepipe level.

With that said, I think you're correct: this could go all kinds of directions, and the fact remains that the natural progression is towards categories that were not "stovepiped". The bases nearest large population centers of the country, i.e. ATL/LA/SEA/NYC are getting more senior, and the midwest is getting more junior.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:36 PM
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Bid has only been out a few hours and already the number ahead of me for SEA 7ER has jumped 32 numbers! This is gonna be interesting. May just have to embrace a displacement!

Just remember the SEA weather sucks and the state has a real meth problem and and and....

Well you get my drift!
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Anyone know how long the 24hr SC for Intl cat will take to switch to 12hr SC?
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:41 PM
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Anyone know how long the 24hr SC for Intl cat will take to switch to 12hr SC?
Assuming the regulation isn't preempted by congress, I think it has to be on the books by August 2011, and becomes effective in 2013.

I wouldn't give scheduling the finger, or get drunk at 12:30 into your SC yet.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO View Post
Bid has only been out a few hours and already the number ahead of me for SEA 7ER has jumped 32 numbers! This is gonna be interesting. May just have to embrace a displacement!
Huh ... same thing is happening in ATL with nearly nobody bidding the bus so far.
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