Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-22-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Thought about that too, but everything says that we will be capacity neutral going forward, and many of those 737-900's will replace the 757, 767, and A320's that are coming up on heavy checks. No mention has been made of future MD-88 retirements, but I could imagine that with more 717's and 76 seat RJ's, many of those could hit the desert too--- that last part is speculation though.
05-22-2012, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
What about the 717s with today's scope? If we turned down the TA and still added the 717s, MD90s, and 737-900s, wouldn't we hit that magic number that allows 3 new 76 seaters for every 1 new mainline plane? I think we are 30 short right now. So, if we turn down the TA, and negotiate for 3 more years slowly for a 45% immediate pay raise, wouldn't those 70 76 seaters come anyway? I think they would, and we would still be fighting for a pay raise.
05-22-2012, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
How do you know that? What if the company doesn't want to park as many planes, or wants the deal anyway with the RJ manufacturer? They can get the 76 seaters regardless, and they can save money on us by not giving us raises. That will pay for having the extra planes (ours) sitting around the TOC, while they get new ones (717s, MD90s, 739s) and then get 3 new 76 seaters per every plane over that set amount. It can happen.
Not saying it can't happen. But even Southwest is deferring deliveries and is staying capacity neutral. The guidance that DL gives Wall St. also indicates capacity neutral for the near future.
05-22-2012, 07:02 PM
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The profit sharing table on page 3-14 is unclear and ambiguous.
If PTIX is over $2.5 billion do we get 20% of the entire PTIX or 10% of the PTIX up to $2.5 and then 20% of the amount over $2.5 billion?
Anyone know?
If PTIX is over $2.5 billion do we get 20% of the entire PTIX or 10% of the PTIX up to $2.5 and then 20% of the amount over $2.5 billion?
Anyone know?
05-22-2012, 07:07 PM
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Now that the company has announced the same profit sharing scheme for the non contract employees, I agree that we should probably monetize the loss into pay. (sorry Carl) But the pay isn't even close to what I'd consider doing that for.
05-22-2012, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
It's been pointed out multiple times, the company is maxed out on 51-76 seat jets already, they have 255 and that number can NOT increase no matter how much they grow mainline. What they CAN do if mainline grows is swap 70 seaters for 76 seaters, up to the max of 255. A very expensive way to get 6 extra seats in 102 aircraft, in other words.
05-22-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I know we're taking care of the 744s and modifying them, but I'd like assurances 773s are not the 747 killers they've been elsewhere.
I like our whales. Fun to look at it. Still can't figure out why we don't use real video of them taking off in commercials.
I like our whales. Fun to look at it. Still can't figure out why we don't use real video of them taking off in commercials.
05-22-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Not saying it can't happen. But even Southwest is deferring deliveries and is staying capacity neutral. The guidance that DL gives Wall St. also indicates capacity neutral for the near future.
05-22-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
What happens at Delta in 2015 if the "snapshot" in December 2014 shows that DCI is way out of balance?
Does RA have to give up his 2014 Christmas bonus so you all get Jelly-of-the-Month Certificates?
Is there any penalty spelled out in the TA, or is it back to the classic "DCI is 18% over their block hour limit, so grieve it and ALPA will get a check for twenty grand."
Does RA have to give up his 2014 Christmas bonus so you all get Jelly-of-the-Month Certificates?
Is there any penalty spelled out in the TA, or is it back to the classic "DCI is 18% over their block hour limit, so grieve it and ALPA will get a check for twenty grand."
Note two: If on January 1, 2014, or any succeeding January 1 thereafter, the
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number of 50-seat aircraft in category A or C operations exceeds the
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maximum permitted number, the Company will require carriers that engage
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in category A or C operations to suspend or cease operations on a sufficient
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number of 50-seat aircraft or 76-seat aircraft to comply with these
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05-22-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
It's been pointed out multiple times, the company is maxed out on 51-76 seat jets already, they have 255 and that number can NOT increase no matter how much they grow mainline. What they CAN do if mainline grows is swap 70 seaters for 76 seaters, up to the max of 255. A very expensive way to get 6 extra seats in 102 aircraft, in other words.
But isn't it interesting how JungleBus has to be the one to correct this widely viewed misconception...and not our resident MEC bureaucrats slowplay and alfaromeo?
Carl
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