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Old 02-16-2019, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by EyeKon View Post
I'm an army helo guy (dime a dozen) dream job has always been the airlines, I am finishing up my bachelors in May in aeronautics, at that point do I apply? Only PIC time I have other than time building is in the 60 which I don't think Delta really cares since it's a helicopter. I am rolling straight into my master in aviation safety do I wait until I have that complete to apply or 1,000 121 PIC? My initial intention is to apply as soon as I finish up my bachelors and then update as often as I can. Thoughts?
The basic Delta pilot requirements are currently this:
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Flight Time Requirements
Minimum of 1,500 hours of total documented flight time.
Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time.
90% of the flight time logged in powered lift category aircraft (e.g. AV-8B, F-35B, and V-22) will be credited to the Delta Air Lines 1,000 hour fixed wing turboprop/turbofan requirement.
Minimum of 250 hours PIC in an aircraft categorized as an airplane.
The flight time logged in a powered lift category aircraft cannot be credited towards PIC aircraft time in accordance with 14 C.F.R. 61.159.
Minimum of 50 hours of fixed wing multi-engine time.
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So my suggestion would be to find a fixed wing job until you reach those requirements. The regionals are busy hiring and would meet the fixed wing turboprop/turbofan time and all the other stuff once you upgrade.

It would be nice if you could fly that job while working on your Masters - don't know if it's online or not - but a masters would certainly help you get to the interview.

Good luck! There are many paths to Delta or other major airlines. It's definitely worth it!
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fans View Post
Does United massage the awards to suit their purposes like Delta? I feel like that would be one of the challenges to doing mock bids here. You see a few iterations of the results, you finalize your bid, and then the company decides once it's complete to only fill half of those 777A positions which throws the entire bid in an entirely new direction.

I love looking at data and I would love the mock bid, but I see just as many people being disappointed as satisfied if it is implemented.
Exactly. Too many variables, and all it does is provide another means of complaining when it doesn't work the way people expected.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fans View Post
Does United massage the awards to suit their purposes like Delta? I feel like that would be one of the challenges to doing mock bids here. You see a few iterations of the results, you finalize your bid, and then the company decides once it's complete to only fill half of those 777A positions which throws the entire bid in an entirely new direction.

I love looking at data and I would love the mock bid, but I see just as many people being disappointed as satisfied if it is implemented.
Along with each vacancy announcement United publishes a Min/Max bulletin which displays current staffing level projections vs. the minimum and maximum required in each BES (Base, Equipment, Seat). They are contractually obligated to award AT LEAST as many positions as needed to reach the minimum, but are at their discretion to award more. Secondary backfills will be concurrently awarded to bring all BES up to at least their minimum as required by vacated positions moving to fill adverstised primary vacancies.

Basically: whatever need is published in a vacancy announcement MUST be awarded, and many additional vacancies (and thus, awards) are created in the award process. Unfilled vacancies are made available to new hires.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Winston View Post
Along with each vacancy announcement United publishes a Min/Max bulletin which displays current staffing level projections vs. the minimum and maximum required in each BES (Base, Equipment, Seat). They are contractually obligated to award AT LEAST as many positions as needed to reach the minimum, but are at their discretion to award more. Secondary backfills will be concurrently awarded to bring all BES up to at least their minimum as required by vacated positions moving to fill adverstised primary vacancies.

Basically: whatever need is published in a vacancy announcement MUST be awarded, and many additional vacancies (and thus, awards) are created in the award process. Unfilled vacancies are made available to new hires.
Delta has the same requirements and minimum staffing levels.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer View Post
The basic Delta pilot requirements are currently this:
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Flight Time Requirements
Minimum of 1,500 hours of total documented flight time.
Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time.
90% of the flight time logged in powered lift category aircraft (e.g. AV-8B, F-35B, and V-22) will be credited to the Delta Air Lines 1,000 hour fixed wing turboprop/turbofan requirement.
Minimum of 250 hours PIC in an aircraft categorized as an airplane.
The flight time logged in a powered lift category aircraft cannot be credited towards PIC aircraft time in accordance with 14 C.F.R. 61.159.
Minimum of 50 hours of fixed wing multi-engine time.
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So my suggestion would be to find a fixed wing job until you reach those requirements. The regionals are busy hiring and would meet the fixed wing turboprop/turbofan time and all the other stuff once you upgrade.

It would be nice if you could fly that job while working on your Masters - don't know if it's online or not - but a masters would certainly help you get to the interview.

Good luck! There are many paths to Delta or other major airlines. It's definitely worth it!
Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm a Piedmomt FO. Thanks for the reply!
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston View Post
Along with each vacancy announcement United publishes a Min/Max bulletin which displays current staffing level projections vs. the minimum and maximum required in each BES (Base, Equipment, Seat). They are contractually obligated to award AT LEAST as many positions as needed to reach the minimum, but are at their discretion to award more. Secondary backfills will be concurrently awarded to bring all BES up to at least their minimum as required by vacated positions moving to fill adverstised primary vacancies.

Basically: whatever need is published in a vacancy announcement MUST be awarded, and many additional vacancies (and thus, awards) are created in the award process. Unfilled vacancies are made available to new hires.
We are always above the minimum required staffing I believe. So the company could just say, "sure, we'll award what we need to reach the minimum. Which is zero. That's the minimum we'll award, up to what's in the AE."

Doesn't solve the issue of not everything being awarded.
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer View Post
We are always above the minimum required staffing I believe. So the company could just say, "sure, we'll award what we need to reach the minimum. Which is zero. That's the minimum we'll award, up to what's in the AE."

Doesn't solve the issue of not everything being awarded.
That’s not correct. As pilots retire or bid to another category it is routine for a category to drop below the contractual minimum. The company must fill those vacancies to prevent that. They don’t have to fill it on that bid but if they don’t backfill on that bid must post another bid to bring the category to its contractual minimum. They can’t fall below those minimums in any given month. They have only failed to do that once in recent history where the 717 category was short for about a week. They paid a substantial penalty.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EyeKon View Post
Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm a Piedmomt FO. Thanks for the reply!
Never too early to start on an application, update it monthly and start studying.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:32 AM
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I've tried to sparse through some info in various threads however I'm still not too sure of the timeframes. I'm curious to know of the probability of someone hired within the next year or two, holding WB CA with 30+ years to go.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:45 AM
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I've tried to sparse through some info in various threads however I'm still not too sure of the timeframes. I'm curious to know of the probability of someone hired within the next year or two, holding WB CA with 30+ years to go.
It seems like that would be determined largely by age at hiring rather than predictions of upgrade timing or hiring rates in the next couple of years. Barring any change in mandatory retirement age, it would require upgrading to WB CA by 35 years old. I don't know the average age at hire date but guessing you'd have to be a relatively young new hire for that to be possible even in the best of industry growth and upgrade scenarios.
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